• IbnLemmy@feddit.uk
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    9 months ago

    Right, right, because it’s people on welfare that are destroying the economy… Tory logic

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    9 months ago

    It continues to disturb me that this is so popular. Hurting the most vulnerable in our society for votes is pretty sick and twisted.

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    9 months ago

    There’s like 15 people in this country who could be looking for work and aren’t. How does inflicting revenge pain on them raise any sort of money for the rest of us?

    They’re either lying, or utterly incompetent when it comes to understanding who’s in the welfare system.

    Or both I guess.

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      9 months ago

      They understand what their voters want to hear: it’s not us causing the problem in this country, it’s the lazy benefit cheats

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        9 months ago

        We’ve come full circle on this one. This is pretty much exactly the same shit they said 13 years ago when we all had to ‘tighten our budgets’ whilst the richest people in the UK got significantly richer at our expense.

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      You’d be surprised to find out that it’s way more than 15 people. I’ve personally known at least a dozen who immigrated to the UK just because of the welfare system and they’d abuse it by getting paid for sitting on their ass all day.

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        You absolutely do not.

        I was an audiotypist for benefit fraud interviews for many years. My partner at the time worked in the BDC. I’m also a first generation immigrant. What I’m trying to say is that you absolutely are talking out your arse.

        I can assure you that even if anyone immigrates to the UK, the road between stepping foot in the country and being able to claim benefits is long and complex.

        Why would you even lie?

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        9 months ago

        I mean I’ll happily have a debate about the merits of UBI in a world where we’re rushing towards mass unemployment, but that’s aside it’s a very very small segment of people on welfare who are “playing the system”.

        It’s bullshit rhetoric designed to get people shouting down at the poorest in our society whilst the richest get away with stealing from us all.

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    9 months ago

    Where’s the package to save us from corporate welfare Mr Cunt. Bail out any banks recently? Fuck off

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    9 months ago

    Jeremy Hunt: “A “poor” asked me for some change or a warm drink the other day. Obviously I wanted to help him, so I punched him in the face and stole his rucksack and blanket, which will support and encourage him back into the world of work.”

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      Anecdotal evidence is not stronger than actual data. Your father became reliant on the state because the state paid a living wage and other jobs didn’t.

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          Social programs don’t go far enough. You can’t lift yourself out of poverty when you’re paid before the poverty line. People who need these resources can’t afford to lift themselves out of poverty.

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              You are protecting a lot of stereotypes into a very diverse set of people. You can’t police the few that would spend their money on heroine without punishing those who need food for themselves and their children. Stop blaming the poor for all of societies problems and start looking at the rich to pay their debt to society.

              There is no effort you can put into getting out of poverty because the system is designed to keep you impoverished.

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                  Not without creating a complex and expensive system that is unnecessarily penalizing.

                  You’re right, you didn’t mention the rich and that’s the problem. Your focus has been on the wrong group this entire time. Quit obsessing over the people with the least power to affect any change in they’re lives and start focusing on the group that never faces scrutiny but is most deserving of it.