• deaf_fish@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Ok so your most important belief is Joe Biden is bad. You don’t care about quality of life or freedom, just Joe Biden is bad.

    I’d say that your decision not to vote is still dumb. You can meet your beliefs better by voting for Trump. That way Biden has less of a chance of winning.

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      I don’t think Joe Biden is bad. I think he’s a symptom of a larger problem. I think on his own, he’s probably not a bad guy, I’m sure I’d probably even like him if I had to talk with the guy.

      I think the entire Democratic party is beholden to the Almighty dollar. I think they bow down to corporate interests at every turn. You want me to hate Joe Biden so badly but it’s just so much deeper than that.

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        I agree 100%. The system is not working in our favor and never really has.

        I don’t understand what the plan is. We don’t vote. Then what?

        The strategy up till now has been clear to me. We keep growing dual power structures, spreading information, talking, growing public opinion, voting for the lesser evil. Bernie wasn’t a complete L. He got a lot of attention and shifted the narrative a bit. Years from now, once we hit a threshold, the candidates and the conversation shift. Why is this plan no longer viable?

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          What plan? Keep showing up and voting for the same guys? I know it’s crazy but we actually have a third option, we’ve just been told over and over again that it’s equal to throwing our votes away (I wonder who would benefit from that?) and if we all believe that, then of course it is.

          Bernie wins in 2016 if the DNC had the balls the back him, but they don’t because they have no incentive to run a guy like that. He’s antithetical to their platform.

          They aren’t the lesser of two evils, they’re one in the same with a different letter next to their name.

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            4 months ago

            Ok, so you don’t have a plan. You are just hoping that when you don’t vote, some asteroids will show up before Trump becomes president and kills him and all the fascists in a very unlikely freak accident.

            They aren’t the lesser of two evils, they’re one in the same with a different letter next to their name.

            Yeah, your right, Biden and Trump same people, same outcome. Biden will obviously pardon all Jan 6thers and will attempt coup the US. /s

            Sorry, I just have a hard time taking these arguments seriously. If you don’t want to vote, that’s fine. The only reason why I am arguing for anything here. Is because people like you are saying that not voting is a serious, good, and very real strategy to improve things. I just think it is handing the country over to fascists prematurely because of a temper tantrum.

            Listen, maybe nothing can be done, maybe we are screwed. Who cares, spend one day to try to extend what we have a little bit longer. Who knows, maybe that asteroid will come for Trump and all the fascists after the next term.