Israel certainly shares the lionshare of the blame. But had Hamas not launched the attack on Israel, where they too killed women and children, this wouldn’t be happening. So you have to give them some of the blame in this shit show too.
Historically I think it’s because women were almost universally noncombatants, but Israel has compulsory service for everyone. It seems like an anachronistic distinction.
Only a racist sociopath would kill the perp’s familiy, friends and neighbours as reprisal and these guys have openly admitted it’s reprisals.
The kind of talk they use, like blaming Palestinians as a whole for Hamas’ actions, calling Palestinians (not Hamas, Palestinians) violent and even calling them “human animals” just further confirms the racist sociopathy of the Israeli leadership and those whom support them.
It’s not by chance that people are now calling them Nazis: it’s the same cold calous murdering along etnic lines and even the same style of dehumanizing discourse and excuses as the Nazis.
All this was already going on as a slow burn before Hamas’ attack, one act of settler/army violent theft and murder at a time, low key enough that outsiders couldn’t quite tell it for what it was (good old Lebensraum), but now it’s a full fire, visible to all.
They’ve always been Nazis, but now they’re going for making their very own Holocaust.
Which is why they still have the lions share of the blame. It doesn’t give them justification, but to claim Hamas is blameless in this whole thing is almost equally as stupid as the people claiming that Israel has the right to do what they are doing.
Ah okay, I see why you may have thought that I was saying Hamas was blameless but you have misunderstood. I am not talking the start of the conflict. I am talking the aid. The only reason that this happened was because Israel was blocking other alternatives to give aid to the people in Gaza. This means that the blame lies 100% with Israel.
My point about one horrible thing doesn’t equal another horrible thing is backing that point up. Israel doesn’t get to deprive innocent civilians of aid just because something bad happened to them. This is what you are arguing and I find it morally disgusting.
I was responding to someone who was talking about killing the perp and their families in response to a crime. They didn’t even mention aid once. You did not clarify that you were specifically talking about aid. Hell, you didn’t even mention aid in your post. You need to learn to take responsibility when a misunderstanding is your fault, not blame the other person.
But, yes, I agree, they don’t get to deny aid. But the whole thing is a clusterfuck with plenty of blame to go around. Hamas could stop using civilians as human shields, and they would probably allow aid in. Even in that regard, Hamas shares some of the blame.
You did not clarify that you were specifically talking about aid.
I didn’t need to. This was a post about an aid package that was dropped on someone, not about the war in general. It is not on me to clarify that I am talking about the thing that I am directly responding/commenting on. It is on you to be able to make an extremely simple logical leap that I am talking about the thing I am responding to.
You need to learn to take responsibility when a misunderstanding is your fault, not blame the other person.
No, that would be you projecting. Which is exactly why you are so disingenuous in this comment thread, are picking and choosing what to respond to, and inventing your own narrative that everyone is playing along with instead of using common sense. I’m not sure why you are acting so surprised that I was talking about aid when the whole thread was about aid but if you want to play the victim, go ahead. You can do it alone and in obscurity because I’m done playing along with the toddlers temper tantrum.
Israel certainly shares the lionshare of the blame. But had Hamas not launched the attack on Israel, where they too killed women and children, this wouldn’t be happening. So you have to give them some of the blame in this shit show too.
Frequently this shit is said I always wonder, are women equivalent to children, is it okay to kill men, or both?
Historically I think it’s because women were almost universally noncombatants, but Israel has compulsory service for everyone. It seems like an anachronistic distinction.
Only a racist sociopath would kill the perp’s familiy, friends and neighbours as reprisal and these guys have openly admitted it’s reprisals.
The kind of talk they use, like blaming Palestinians as a whole for Hamas’ actions, calling Palestinians (not Hamas, Palestinians) violent and even calling them “human animals” just further confirms the racist sociopathy of the Israeli leadership and those whom support them.
It’s not by chance that people are now calling them Nazis: it’s the same cold calous murdering along etnic lines and even the same style of dehumanizing discourse and excuses as the Nazis.
All this was already going on as a slow burn before Hamas’ attack, one act of settler/army violent theft and murder at a time, low key enough that outsiders couldn’t quite tell it for what it was (good old Lebensraum), but now it’s a full fire, visible to all.
They’ve always been Nazis, but now they’re going for making their very own Holocaust.
No I don’t. Two wrongs do not make a right. Just because someone did something horrible doesn’t mean someone else gets to do something horrible.
Which is why they still have the lions share of the blame. It doesn’t give them justification, but to claim Hamas is blameless in this whole thing is almost equally as stupid as the people claiming that Israel has the right to do what they are doing.
Ah okay, I see why you may have thought that I was saying Hamas was blameless but you have misunderstood. I am not talking the start of the conflict. I am talking the aid. The only reason that this happened was because Israel was blocking other alternatives to give aid to the people in Gaza. This means that the blame lies 100% with Israel.
My point about one horrible thing doesn’t equal another horrible thing is backing that point up. Israel doesn’t get to deprive innocent civilians of aid just because something bad happened to them. This is what you are arguing and I find it morally disgusting.
I was responding to someone who was talking about killing the perp and their families in response to a crime. They didn’t even mention aid once. You did not clarify that you were specifically talking about aid. Hell, you didn’t even mention aid in your post. You need to learn to take responsibility when a misunderstanding is your fault, not blame the other person.
But, yes, I agree, they don’t get to deny aid. But the whole thing is a clusterfuck with plenty of blame to go around. Hamas could stop using civilians as human shields, and they would probably allow aid in. Even in that regard, Hamas shares some of the blame.
I didn’t need to. This was a post about an aid package that was dropped on someone, not about the war in general. It is not on me to clarify that I am talking about the thing that I am directly responding/commenting on. It is on you to be able to make an extremely simple logical leap that I am talking about the thing I am responding to.
Pot? Meet kettle.
lol. Okay, whatever. Clearly not interested in honesty. Have a good day.
No, that would be you projecting. Which is exactly why you are so disingenuous in this comment thread, are picking and choosing what to respond to, and inventing your own narrative that everyone is playing along with instead of using common sense. I’m not sure why you are acting so surprised that I was talking about aid when the whole thread was about aid but if you want to play the victim, go ahead. You can do it alone and in obscurity because I’m done playing along with the toddlers temper tantrum.
Act like an adult.