• superace@feddit.de
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    4 months ago

    What’s so horrible about conservatism itself? Is this about the USA’s Republican Party?

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      4 months ago

      Yes it is. But could also be all right wing political parties. The Canadian right are actually called Conservative. I honestly can’t understand why anyone would be conservative leaning politically unless they were rich.

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        4 months ago

        As someone who holds both left and right views depending on the issue, I understand wanting to lean conservative. Social programs, better infrastructure, and higher taxes make sense when you can trust your government to spend your money wisely. The problem is they don’t and people in government are incentivised to not do their job efficiently because then they would lose funding or their job entirely. And lately, the right has no concern over lowering taxes for the average citizen or increasing government efficiency despite that being one of core fundamentals of the party.

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        4 months ago

        I get your opinion. Conservative values are much more important in the countryside, where everyone knows every single person in the whole village. It’s all about where you stand in life. If you are a young student in a huge city you are way more likely to be left-leaning for obvious reasons. Meanwhile the majority of people in the countryside are right-leaning generally speaking. But it’s always sad to see people labeling so many people they don’t know as stupid or malevolent. Of course, having seen some Canadian and US-American conservative politicians I absolutely understand where you are coming from. Most of their speeches are filled with populist rhetoric.

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          The thing is if you take any conservative. Any one at all and remove them from a conservative echo chamber and educate them and introduce them to other cultures they always become more liberal / left.

          Conservatism is a disability to be overcome.

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            As a disabled person, I’m asking you to please find a better metaphor for conservatism than disability.

            Also, most disabled people don’t want to “overcome” their disability. They (we) want basic human rights and accommodations.

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            4 months ago

            Wow. So about half of the world is just stupid? This sounds like you are in a left-wing echo chamber to me.

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              They literally just said it’s was 100% due to the information environment you’re in. In what way does that imply stupidity?

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      4 months ago

      Conservativism - “Conservatism is a cultural, social, and political philosophy and ideology, which seeks to promote and preserve traditional institutions, customs, and values.” - Wikipedia

      There is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve some traditions, institutions or values. The issue many have with it is when the things wanted to be preserved are racist or harmful to many people, etc. There are some things we need to move past, like slavery, and then there are some people that will loudly proclaim themselves conservative and say we should go back to slavery.

      And yes, a lot of that does seem to be the USA’s/Canada’s current conservative parties.

      But wanting to “keep things as they are/were” isn’t a horrible thing in and of itself, but it’s often the specific things that they want to go back to.

    • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOP
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      4 months ago

      Literally everything. Homophobic, racist, uneducated, greedy, uncaring. Everything bad. They’re all shits.

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      What does this part of conservativism that you subscribe to seek to conserve? How is it not in line with American conservativism?