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        7 months ago

        I’ll admit that more people opposed the Ukraine Aid (all R tho) than the Israel Aid, but it’s still wrong to say unanimously.

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          6 months ago

          voting for a government that’s enabling a genocide is voting for that genocide to continue, no matter how you decide to answer on a poll

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            6 months ago

            We’re in a representative democracy that takes a couple years for all elected positions within a government to change completely assuming every person in said government was voted out. So I ask you, why the fuck would you assume massive change of policy and position within a year? Especially since support for Israel was pretty widespread for the better part of eighty years.

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              6 months ago

              why would you assume a change of policy at all over any timescale if you keep electing people propping up a genocide?

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                6 months ago

                Did ya fucken read my comment, most Americans werent aware of the genocide up until relatively recently. Even then traction against Israel has only built up within less than a fucken year, and I shall restate that the US has been backing Israel for longer than most people have been alive at this point. Why the fuck would you expect substantial change before theres even been an election.

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                  6 months ago

                  why would you expect substantial change at any point if you re-elect a party after they spent a year propping up a genocide?

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                    6 months ago

                    Bit of a shit situation is what I call it, we have two parties who are worth shit. One is violently genocidal both at home and abroad, while the other is only mildly genocidal abroad. Sorry to break it to you mate but there is only one effective choice.

                    And before ya come at me, imma just gonna point out that I fucken hate this fact. Im a socialist Redneck my ilk have been dealing with shit deals for over a hundred years, but the reason there are socialist Rednecks still around is cause pragmatism is a far more effective tool than throwing a hissy fit and checking out.

                    I dont like the shit pie but its far more effective than standing up and letting the shaped charage under my ass go off.

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            6 months ago

            You’ve got one side sending food and clean water while the other side advocates Netanyahu “finish the job”, but sure “both sides bad” about it all you want.

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              6 months ago

              you can talk around it with all the mental gymnastics you like, but ultimately voting for biden is a signal to the democratic party that their base doesn’t care about genocide enough to not vote for him, which is all they care about

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                6 months ago

                And not voting for Biden resulting in a Trump victory signals an immediate end to Palestinians, among many other horrible atrocities to come as the US declines into a mix of Plutocracy and Evangelical Theocracy.

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                  6 months ago

                  implying palestine will last until january

                  oh ho ho

                  if you’re fine with the trade off, make the trade off and vote biden

                  just don’t pretend the trade off isn’t happening