Broadband lobby groups prepare lawsuit, calling rules a "net fatality."

The Federal Communications Commission voted 3–2 to impose net neutrality rules today, restoring the common-carrier regulatory framework enforced during the Obama era and then abandoned while Trump was president.

The rules prohibit Internet service providers from blocking and throttling lawful content and ban paid prioritization.

“Consumers have made clear to us they do not want their broadband provider cutting sweetheart deals, with fast lanes for some services and slow lanes for others,” FCC Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel said at today’s meeting.

      • hemmes@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        You mean the same Ashit Pai who also mismanaged and blew the $9 billion rural digital opportunity fund that was supposed to help underserved areas?

        That Ashit Pai?

        • rickyrigatoni@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          The same shit pie who illegally used copyrighted content on his advertisements for a regulation to make copyright laws more stricterer?

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    2 months ago

    They do, however, allow data caps.

    These new rules are not the same as the old ones and there’s definitely a handful of things that the big companies wanted that they indeed got.

      • scoobford@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        2 months ago

        No reason they should exist in any day and age.

        Companies do not pay per packet. Paying more for more bandwidth or lower latency kind of makes sense because theoretically they may be prioritizing your traffic when the network is under too much load. But sending 16 petabytes costs exactly the same as 1kb in a month, assuming your connection is fast enough to handle 16 petabytes in a month.

        • Trollception@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          True companies do not pay per packet but they do pay for the bandwidth. The more users that use more bandwidth consistently means the ISP needs to invest more money on throughput/links. If you have 100 users and they use 1 mbps on average you can get away with a 100mpbs link. If you have 5 users using 50mpbs on average now you need a gig link. So technically it’s not free but yeah bandwidth caps suck big time. My suggestion would be to pick a place to live near a city with a municipal broadband option.

        • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Right but if everyone sends 16 petabtyes a month the internet would collapse. Data caps do absolutely work to reduce bandwidth on a network scale. Bandwidth is measured in mbps. Limit the Mb and you reduce the necessary bandwidth.

    • oken735@lemm.eeEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Source? Didn’t see anything in the article about it, and I did a quick search and couldn’t find anything that says they would be allowed to impose data caps given the verbiage in the rules

      • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        2 months ago

        My source is the document the FCC presented as their new net neutrality rules, which can be found here:

        https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-401676A1.pdf

        Page 317-318, Section 534-535 “Application to Data Caps”

        Section 534 discusses the professor who suggests data caps should be banned, and section 535 discusses how the commission disagrees and how data caps will remain.

        1. We agree with Professor Jordan that the Commission can evaluate data caps under the general conduct standard. We do not at this time, however, make any blanket determinations regarding the use of data caps based on the record before us. The record demonstrates that while BIAS providers can implement data caps in ways that harm consumers or the open Internet, particularly when not deployed primarily as a means to manage congestion, data caps can also be deployed as a means to manage congestion or to offer lower-cost broadband services to consumers who use less broadband. As such, we conclude that it is appropriate to proceed incrementally with respect to data caps, and we will evaluate individual data cap practices under the general conduct standard based on the facts of each individual case, and take action as necessary.

        Also, you get an upvote for asking for a source. Cheers.

        • oken735@lemm.eeEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Thank you! Crazy no news article caught this. Appreciate you taking the time to read the first party document

    • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Get a business line, if you plan on staying at your current residence for longer than 3 years. Usually you can get it for a few dollars more than a residential line, and it’ll not have a data cap, plus they’re going to have a 99.99% SLA for uptime…and you’re not going to be getting some script reader if you have issues.

      • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        If you have a business line you’re still 100% getting a script reader. They just come without a foreign accent.

        • spikederailed@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Unfortunately mostly true. I worked for Charter Business, and was told I was “being too helpful”. They only want people who read off the script. I moved over to the CCST group before they killed that off. I’m so happy to be away from there, that place was soul sucking.

      • RaoulDook@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        None of my local ISPs have data caps on regular home internet plans. Y’all just need better ISPs.

        100Mb symmetrical fiber is about $40-50 and Gigabit is about $80/mo from ours

        • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Sounds lovely.

          You are aware that most of us in the US don’t actually have options like that, correct? I’d dump my ISP in a heartbeat if those plans were available to me.

          • RaoulDook@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 months ago

            I’m quite aware of the ISP situation in the USA and it has been worse at each home I’ve lived in before. I’ve had shitty AT&T connections at 4 homes with no other options there. Things have gotten much better in the last 5 years overall. Fiber is rolling out all across the country from local utilities like phone and power. Look for your local options, and avoid the big companies.

        • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          FCC Chairwoman who made this happen. She was also there voting against Ajit (Shit Pie) Pai when he pushed to overturn Obama era net neutrality back in 2017. She also initially set up the net neutrality rules during the Obama admin. She can be credited for fighting this fight for many years now on our behalf.

  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Dems have only had control of the FCC for a few months. It’s nice to see the regulators actually regulating, and not caving to corporate lobbyists.

  • Uninvited Guest@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Why did it take so long to get this implemented during Biden’s term? Why are we only seeing this just before the next election. I ask as an outsider to the states.

    • isles@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      This is the “fourth year surge,” where 1st term presidents rush to get a lot of positive policy change so they look like they’re doing a good job. They tend to pass more legislation and use fewer executive orders during this time.

      Some of the policy that previous presidents are best known for were passed during this surge time, including Social Security, the Fair Labor Standards Act, Civil Rights Act, Federal Highway Aid Act, Equal Pay act, etc.

      Here, asking “why” is asking “what is their incentive”.

      There may be some merit to saying that a president is an entire branch of government and cycling out staff in key positions to get them in political alignment can take a lot of time. Biden’s admin has had to re-staff many departments after Trump.

      • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        This is the “fourth year surge,” where 1st term presidents rush to get a lot of positive policy change so they look like they’re doing a good job

        It’s literally not that at all. It was about the GOP gumming up the appointment process to the FCC board. Democratic party appointees have only had a 3-2 majority on the FCC board for about 6 months.

        • isles@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Thanks for the context in this specific case in response to my last paragraph.

          So you’re saying it could have been done 6 months ago but is only now being done in the 4th year of Biden’s term?

    • Veraxus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      They are - surprise, surprise - the only two Republicans…

      • Brendan Carr - 2017 Trump appointee
      • Nathan Simington - 2020 Trump appointee
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      2 months ago

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