hot take?
Edit: got nothing against Ubuntu, it’s Linux after all and that’s what matters 🌻 Edit2: people took this very seriously for being a shower thought…
Anyone using Ubuntu is one person less using windows. I call that a win. Everyone has to start somewhere!
Ubuntu was my training wheels 15 years ago
Arch Linux user here to say… Ubuntu’s fine, man. Love all the derivatives that can take advantage of the core Ubuntu system (e.g., Mint, which I’ve installed for family members).
I love Arch. I use it all the time. I will not inflict it on any family members.
And for those of us that love Arch but don’t have time for it, EndeavourOS.
Don’t have the socks for it*
Eh, I’m at the stage where I’m done with windows and have no desire for osx, but I also don’t have an entire evening or weekend to be locked into my computer like I used to. At a certain point, I need my computer to just work most of the time so I can finish my actual work and then spend time with my family.
Arch users are like the car guys who spend all day tuning the engine and adjust the seats on namometer scale. I myself drive an ancient volvo that looks like shit but works great no matter the abuse I put it through. And I use LMDS for the same reason - it does what I need it to do, with no need for manually adjusting compression ratios.
I had a much better experience with Manjaro over EndeavourOS because it supported more of my hardware, but to be fair I’m using an Asus gaming laptop. When I build my next desktop, I’m gonna try a straight Arch install.
The neck beards that judge someone’s distro choice without knowing their use cases don’t represent the Linux community. Just use the best tool for the job
if linux is hipster than i guess its time i start my openbsd arc
the problem with ubuntu is canonical, it’s a shame it’s got the reputation as “the third OS” when it’s basically the only distro that’s trying to replicate the walled gardens of microsoft and apple.
I wouldn’t describe Microsoft as a walled garden (and Canonical even less). But maybe that term comes with degrees, and different perspectives of what’s tolerable.
Windows is less of a “walled garden”, and more like a shared garden where the other gardener is really inconsiderate and will mess up your part of the garden whenever it doesn’t align with their vision.
No, Apple gives off hipster vibes to the average PC user. Apple products are basically jewelry, you choose Apple products largely to be seen with them, so that when you slide that phone out of your pocket there’s that Apple logo on it. So that your bubble is blue in iMessage. That’s hipster shit.
The average PC user has never seen Linux running on a PC and doesn’t understand what a “distro” is at all. Ubuntu and its default Gnome DE isn’t as easily mistaken for Windows as KDE or Cinnamon is, so this one might spark the conversation a little faster, and “average” Windows users tend to compare Linux users of all stripes to vegans.
WIthin the Linux community, Until maybe 5 years ago Ubuntu had the “beginner OS” stank to it. “Start here until you’re ready to edit xorg.conf like a real man.” Canonical has been shifting away from “Linux for the masses” and more toward “Leveraging synergies” to the point that I straight-up recommend against Ubuntu for daily use as their Snap ecosystem has a lot of disadvantages for desktop users especially gamers. To me, Ubuntu is a radial arm saw, the wonder do-all death trap grampa won’t shut up about that no one makes anymore. In the modern day, best practice is to forget they exist.
How is macOS hipster? Apple products are so damn popular.
Apple’s core ethos is “be hip and trendy.” They make electronics to be seen with, style before substance. That’s 200% hipster shit.
Hmm idk man, anything that has ads playing everywhere 24/7 is not hipster, hipster is unknown, but stylish etc. Hipster is more trendsetter and macOS is not a trendsetter, it’s just a trend at this point. Anything pop by definition is not hipster.
To give a pithy example: macOS is to tech hipsters what hot topic is to goth hipsters
Fuckin love ubuntu despite knowing it’s a cold take. How about that dogshit?
Oh snap
The snap infrastructure is indeed what some object to the most.
Im of the opinion that the distro is far less important than the Desktop Environment. Ubuntu only really “feels like Ubuntu” because of GNOME.
Most of what differentiates a distro from another is one of:
- package manager
- default packages/configurations (including the desktop environment)
- init system
The rest well… it’s Linux.
Only linux newbies and weirdos hate on Ubuntu. It’s a good all around operating system. Not the best choice and Canonical fails a lot but it’s still a net good.
I’m rly happy when ppl switch to a GNU/Linux OS, tho I would never recommend Ubuntu to anyone (anymore), since Linux Mint has a much saner no bs team that is not fucked over by a corporate
Or just plain Debian, which is wonderful as well
You pick your OS based on vibes?
Some people develop OS based on vibes. Looking at you Hannah Montana OS
Ubuntu is a gateway drug. Its lickable Fisher-Price interface is easy to use for basic tasks like web browsing, email and so on, and the always present sidebar provides reassurance. Once users start chafing against the limitations, they can move to forks like Xubuntu, or all the way to Debian itself, or if they really want to get their hands dirty, Arch.
Or Ubuntu could perform every task they need it to and never switch to anything else.
Exactly.
Ubuntu is wide spread, well documented, and was the recommended distro for a lot of things (like steam) for a long time.
I used Ubuntu for a long time, I didnt grow up and move on or any hipster shit like that… I simply moved to Nobara because it offered a better out of the box experience for me, a gamer, due entirely to all the gaming related stuff being installed as default, at start.
This weird need to feel superior to others over distro choice is weird, and kinda pathetic. Its just stupid and pathetic to be insulting and denigrating others over their distro choice… And says a lot more about the pathetic nature of the person saying it, then anything they could type.
and yes, I said pathetic 3 times, because thats just how pathetic it is to be like that.
Everyone that I know that uses linux is using Ubuntu. I’m the wierdo using Debian
You’re also the weirdo using singular verbs with a plural noun. An unusual choice for sure.
Edit: wow, thanks for the downvotes. I thought we had moved away from the childish knee-jerk reactions that reddit was famous for.
Jesus Christ this thread is full of people who don’t realize they’re the judging hipster in the post.
Ubuntu isn’t the entry level distro that you move on from once you’ve gotten your feet wet, and your not very subtle pats on your own backs for using something different aren’t earned.
Does it do everything the user needs from it? If so, don’t tell them that they need to “graduate” to a “better” flavor.
