Soon it will be undeniable that FSD is the most advanced and safest self-driving system on the planet and the haters just need to accept it. It’s a good thing because it’s literally saving human lives.

You might not like Teslas as a vehicle nor the company itself due to the CEO but the fact is that no other manufacturer offers equally capable self-driving system and this is unlikely to change anytime soon. If you’ve not been following this technology closely they just switched from human code to 100% neural nets and the difference between V11 and V12 cannot be overstated. It’s still not perfect and probably never will be but it’s really good and there’s a good chance it’s already safer driver than the average human. This is all done using only cameras. No radar, no LiDAR.

There’s also rumors going around that Ford is about to licence the FSD software in their own vehicles and others are likely to follow so it will not be just Tesla’s that are using it.

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    Literally today a Tesla on autodrive killed a person on a motorcycle.

    The reason no one else offers it is because it’s half baked, unfinished, permanently beta, and not safe to be on real roads.

    Driving has 10,000 edge cases and every one needs to be tested and 100% perfect, and because of that self driving is a long ways away. Real car manufacturers know that, and know what Tesla is actually selling - a gimmick.

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      Driving has 10,000 edge cases and every one needs to be tested and 100% perfect, and because of that self driving is a long ways away.

      This is the ‘devil is in the details’, as to why autodriving isn’t there yet.

      Having the code for every one of those edge cases in the office/lab via simulation has got to be a nightmare, and no way to be complete before releasing.

      Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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        exactly. Anyone who has ever coded anything professionally knows how intense a problem like this is. There’s a reason that no one, not even Google, Microsoft, or Apple have successfully done it. They may still be researching, but to think it’s a simple problem that can be handwaved away with AI and models is incredibly naiive.

        AI is just probability. This picture is probably a dog, with over 90% accuracy. Which is great when you’re classifying cats and dogs - but we’re doing real time live determinations of things while driving, and that’s a completely different problem set. Now we need AI to predict with a much higher probability that there is a person in the street, or the street is dividing, or there is a construction zone, or the car ahead is starting to slow down, or… 10,000 other edge cases.

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    My respect for the opinion, but the facts… well, you got them all wrong.

    You want to read about the levels of autonomy. For example: https://www.sae.org/blog/sae-j3016-update

    Tesla is stuck on level 2, and for years already (regardless how many times they renamed their system), and they are not expected to reach level 3 anytime soon.

    Others have level 4 vehicles running driverless in some restricted environments, and Mercedes has recently started selling level 3 vehicles to private users.

    https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/27/23572942/mercedes-drive-pilot-level-3-approved-nevada

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      Restricted environments. If Tesla use that as their criteria they’d meet that.

      Fsd is cool. I’ve been using it for years but it either works like a dream or tries to kill you.

      It’s not prime time but overall it’s more advanced than anyone else since it doesn’t use pre mapped paths.

      Mercedes level 3 is highly conditional unlike Tesla.

      The point being Tesla has an advanced system but ford would be an idiot it licensing it. Every time I think Tesla cracked the code, it tries to murder me.

      I think Tesla should have kept the radars.

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        Restricted environments. If Tesla use that as their criteria they’d meet that.

        They are not even trying.

        They won’t let you turn your hands off the wheel, not even in such restricted situations. They don’t want to.