• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I dunno. Biden went from ‘no upper limit’ on children and civilian death in Gaza and ‘no chance, none’ about a ceasefire to calling for ceasefire a month after the Uncommitted campaign and recently aired conditioning aid. I don’t think it is mere coincidence, but I get there’s strong pushback on that idea. Though I think calling it shouting into the void is a little bit stifling.

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      2 months ago

      I think that was in part the change in the ‘war’ and his growing agitation that Bibi was saying one thing and doing another. There are a lot of gears turning to prevent a lot of what we’re seeing, and then you’ve got a single, final soundbite which is all most people know of it.

      I would agree it has had some effect, at least in the messaging. I would disagree we can afford it at this time though. Nationally. With a corrupt demented orange rapist in the wings.

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        2 months ago

        And that’s arguably true: maybe Biden would have done nothing different than he already has if everyone shut up about the matter in Gaza.

        I don’t see it, but I accept that it’s a possibility. I’ll hear that argument.

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      2 months ago

      Though I think calling it shouting into the void is a little bit stifling.

      I’m an anonymous stranger on the internet, it’s completely your choice to be ‘stifled’ or not here. That’s kinda pathetic.