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    5 months ago

    edward snowden. according to his leaks they have been doing it since the early 2000s.

    the only mechanism companies can use to disclose it somewhat is a warrant canary, and apple doesn’t have one.

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        5 months ago

        you’d rather put faith in a corporation?

        do you have the source code we can actually review for backdoors?

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            source code. you can link legal documents all you want to try and shift blame from apple, but fact is, privacy is still an illusion with them unless we can investigate their os for backdoors.

            the snowden leaks are well estabilished fact by this point and no amount of “but its not their fault!” will change it regardless of if its true or not.

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              The source code is proprietary. They’ll never release it. If Snowden has proof, then where is that?

              Since both claims are unprovable, let’s look at the evidence and motive.

              You believe that Apple would spend all of that money fighting the FBI in court, just so they could give the NSA a backdoor that is in direct violation of their privacy policy, potentially exposing them to a massive class action suit from users, and does not benefit them in any financially tangible way.

              Time to take off the tin foil hat.

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                  Cool. I’ve asked for it twice. I’m equally skeptical. The difference is I require proof to believe it. Do you have a link?

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      They didn’t do anything “with Apple”. The NSA added splitters to fiber optic lines to steal information. Apple never collaborated with the NSA, nor gave them information willingly.