It’s just kinda dumbass, since the other guy is going to do so much worse. Like, if you value human life, you should draw the line at the putz who’s going to kill the fewest people. You can piss and moan all you want, but before you lies a binary choice. There’s nothing you can do to change that.
I assume you are referring to supplying weapons to Israel, in which case, do you think Trump (who called Biden a ‘Palestinian’ as an insult during the debate) will be the better choice and stop supplying weapons to Israel?
Hypothethical imaginary situations that are supposed to scare Leftists or other sensible individuals into toeing the dem party lines are false and useless
i keep seeing this analogy and conclusions pop up everywhere on here over the last three months and I’m think a neo-liberal developer has unleashed a host of bot accounts that parrot their party’s propaganda on Lemmy
So you actually believe that after the elections are over when one of the two candidates will inevitably win that your 3rd party vote will have done anything other than the obvious 2 things? (Either nothing or just raise trump’s chance to win). If you actually care, the sensible thing to do is make everything possible to make sure trump doesn’t win then start protesting asap and doing everything in your power for the next 4 years to make sure you get more and better options.
When did they say they were throwing their vote away or voting for trunp? You can always expect false analogies from genocidal democrats.
Political/Voting Apathy is a thing, if an individual’s interest and values don’t align with yours, you can’t expect them to support or follow your party.
The Biden-led government committed a genocide, deal with the consequences
And do you really think the literal fascist will be a better option?
No? Then vote Biden.
We only have two options. There is no way around that.
Throwing your vote away is disgustingly irresponsible, and those who do are culpable for everything that follows if Trump wins.
It’s not apathy, it’s pure selfishness from those either too privileged to be seriously effected if Trump wins, or too stupid to realize the effect it will have
When Trump wins it will be your fault for not forcing Biden to drop out. Ride-or-die Biden cultists are following the leader off a cliff when they should be calling for Biden to resign now (holy SHIT he needs to resign now, this man is not able to perform his job didn’t you see?!) and for someone else to replace him at the Convention.
Do whatever you want, but don’t try to blame me for trying to force America to vote for a nursing home patient.
This is the option we have. I don’t like it either, but unless some miracle happens and the DNC gets their head out of their ass, it’s either Biden or Trump.
Refusing to vote because you’d rather stick it to Biden is not only stupid, but it’s exactly what republicans want you to do. You are inherently aiding them and Trump by doing so.
No, our option is to voice our displeasure and force the Party to capitulate to our demands.
Stop just laying down and letting them have their way with you. It’s embarrassing.
EDIT I don’t mean this to be an attack, but I just can’t get over how peasant-like your mindset is. “All we can do is support m’lord and 'ave faith in his Court, ours is not to question.” Why won’t you even try to change anything? When did you give up entirely on the concept of politics? We need to rise up and resist, not meekly obey!
I’m not “giving up”, I simply recognize the situation for what it is. I’m a realist, not a delusionist. Our situation is fucked either way, and the only choice we have is laid out plainly in front of us. We have the option of bad, or worse. I know what I’m choosing.
By all means, voice your displeasure. Attack the party, attack those that got us to this point, attack the fuckers that continually neuter any attempt at having an even somewhat decent person running this country.
We are largely on the same page. Fuck Democrats, fuck the DNC, and fuck the spineless bastards that support them.
But at the end of the day, facts are facts. We can wish the situation were different, and we can fight for a better one going forward, but this is what we’ve got right now.
So are you going to do your part in mitigating the shitshow, or will you sit in selfish apathy, willing to let the bad be worse?
I’m not “giving up”, I simply recognize the situation for what it is. I’m a realist, not a delusionist. Our situation is fucked either way, and the only choice we have is laid out plainly in front of us. We have the option of bad, or worse. I know what I’m choosing.
You are giving up, regardless of your reasoning. You think good things are impossible and we should just settle for less bad things.
This only guarantees that the worst outcome becomes inevitable. You create a shield for Democrats to hide behind that allows them to ignore calls from their base, which in turn obliterates voter enthusiasm and participation. When no one shows up to vote for your cynical candidates you have no one but yourself to blame.
You need to join us in forrcing the Democratic Party to listen to constituents or Republicans are going to win.
If you actually cared about genocide you’d get your thumb out of your ass and vote to reduce harm.
Yet you’re sitting here shitting yourself over people voting for the lesser of two evils to feel morally superior, as if that’s going to help Palestinians. Good job.
Still drawing the line at genocide. Hate me.
It’s just kinda dumbass, since the other guy is going to do so much worse. Like, if you value human life, you should draw the line at the putz who’s going to kill the fewest people. You can piss and moan all you want, but before you lies a binary choice. There’s nothing you can do to change that.
I assume you are referring to supplying weapons to Israel, in which case, do you think Trump (who called Biden a ‘Palestinian’ as an insult during the debate) will be the better choice and stop supplying weapons to Israel?
okay so vote for trump who will give even more to israel, great plan, very thought out.
Hypothethical imaginary situations that are supposed to scare Leftists or other sensible individuals into toeing the dem party lines are false and useless
i keep seeing this analogy and conclusions pop up everywhere on here over the last three months and I’m think a neo-liberal developer has unleashed a host of bot accounts that parrot their party’s propaganda on Lemmy
You aren’t smart.
So you actually believe that after the elections are over when one of the two candidates will inevitably win that your 3rd party vote will have done anything other than the obvious 2 things? (Either nothing or just raise trump’s chance to win). If you actually care, the sensible thing to do is make everything possible to make sure trump doesn’t win then start protesting asap and doing everything in your power for the next 4 years to make sure you get more and better options.
Same.
I don’t care if y’all vote for Biden. Do what you think is best, and let me do what I think is best.
So throwing away your vote is doing what is best?
Great. When Trump wins, you’ll be just as responsible as the republicans
When did they say they were throwing their vote away or voting for trunp? You can always expect false analogies from genocidal democrats.
Political/Voting Apathy is a thing, if an individual’s interest and values don’t align with yours, you can’t expect them to support or follow your party. The Biden-led government committed a genocide, deal with the consequences
It was implied.
And do you really think the literal fascist will be a better option?
No? Then vote Biden.
We only have two options. There is no way around that.
Throwing your vote away is disgustingly irresponsible, and those who do are culpable for everything that follows if Trump wins.
It’s not apathy, it’s pure selfishness from those either too privileged to be seriously effected if Trump wins, or too stupid to realize the effect it will have
When Trump wins it will be your fault for not forcing Biden to drop out. Ride-or-die Biden cultists are following the leader off a cliff when they should be calling for Biden to resign now (holy SHIT he needs to resign now, this man is not able to perform his job didn’t you see?!) and for someone else to replace him at the Convention.
Do whatever you want, but don’t try to blame me for trying to force America to vote for a nursing home patient.
This is the option we have. I don’t like it either, but unless some miracle happens and the DNC gets their head out of their ass, it’s either Biden or Trump.
Refusing to vote because you’d rather stick it to Biden is not only stupid, but it’s exactly what republicans want you to do. You are inherently aiding them and Trump by doing so.
No, our option is to voice our displeasure and force the Party to capitulate to our demands.
Stop just laying down and letting them have their way with you. It’s embarrassing.
EDIT I don’t mean this to be an attack, but I just can’t get over how peasant-like your mindset is. “All we can do is support m’lord and 'ave faith in his Court, ours is not to question.” Why won’t you even try to change anything? When did you give up entirely on the concept of politics? We need to rise up and resist, not meekly obey!
I’m not “giving up”, I simply recognize the situation for what it is. I’m a realist, not a delusionist. Our situation is fucked either way, and the only choice we have is laid out plainly in front of us. We have the option of bad, or worse. I know what I’m choosing.
By all means, voice your displeasure. Attack the party, attack those that got us to this point, attack the fuckers that continually neuter any attempt at having an even somewhat decent person running this country.
We are largely on the same page. Fuck Democrats, fuck the DNC, and fuck the spineless bastards that support them.
But at the end of the day, facts are facts. We can wish the situation were different, and we can fight for a better one going forward, but this is what we’ve got right now.
So are you going to do your part in mitigating the shitshow, or will you sit in selfish apathy, willing to let the bad be worse?
I know what I’m doing.
You are giving up, regardless of your reasoning. You think good things are impossible and we should just settle for less bad things.
This only guarantees that the worst outcome becomes inevitable. You create a shield for Democrats to hide behind that allows them to ignore calls from their base, which in turn obliterates voter enthusiasm and participation. When no one shows up to vote for your cynical candidates you have no one but yourself to blame.
You need to join us in forrcing the Democratic Party to listen to constituents or Republicans are going to win.
Have fun contributing to the Republicans
“I’m going to stand around and let the genocide get worse, because I’m morally superior! 🤓☝️”
Much better to be a spineless key board warrior like .ml and also accomplish nothing while screeching about nuking the west.
Great work, you saved Palestine!
If you actually cared about genocide you’d get your thumb out of your ass and vote to reduce harm.
Yet you’re sitting here shitting yourself over people voting for the lesser of two evils to feel morally superior, as if that’s going to help Palestinians. Good job.