• Hikermick@lemmy.world
    8·
    1 day ago

    This isn’t true. Off the top of my head I can think of at least two democrats who’ve been sentenced to prison. I vote democratic party 99% of the time and I don’t disagree with the premise but I don’t want like-minded folks going around with bad info

  • StinkySocialist@lemmy.mlEnglish
    52·
    1 day ago

    Sure. They both benefit from the same situation. Both benefit from the weird electoral system the states have and they both benefit by being one of only two parties. Infact they are almost completely dependent on each other. Once Republican Democrat politicians realized they could get elected by getting people afraid of the opposition instead of excited for their candidate they’ve had this country voting for the lesser of two evils ever since. 🤷

    Both options suck, but the Democrats are slightly better than the Republicans. They both get paid by the same people and they both push forward the same agenda. For example, probably the most left-wing policy we’ve had come out of our countries. Federal government in a long time is Obamacare. But Obamacare was actually thought up by a right-wing think tank called the heritage foundation. It’s a Republican idea that works as bad as other Republican ideas but because it was put forward by a Democrat because who’s going to defend it? The real solution is single-payer universal healthcare like any other non-backwards ass country has. But the Democrats being controlled opposition put Obamacare there instead.

    Hope that helps you understand where other people are coming from. 👈😎 I find the short form memes like that used to strip away. Nuance and “trigger” those who disagree with you to be a very trumpet esque style of memeing.

    • madcaesar@lemmy.world
      31·
      24 hours ago

      You see the problem is that in a system where you only get two choices, you don’t get to say both choices suck, because that is literarily helping the shitter side.

      If you want to fix the system I’m all for it, but today, here, now, we are required to make a choice and the choice is crystal clear, one side is infinitely better than the other.

      It’s not close, it’s not they both are not perfect, this shitty system we have requires us, as adults to vote for one or the other and the Republicans are batshit insane people that literally want to kill women and queer people.

      This is not a matter of coke VS Pepsi, this is a brocoli VS steaming diarrhea.

      • StinkySocialist@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        23 hours ago

        I’m not going to vote for Trump. If my state were a swing state, I’d vote for Biden. I’m going to work on getting us a third option with my vote since im not in a swing state.

        !you don’t get to say both choices suck,!<

        What’s the point of this whole democracy thing if I can’t even say my piece? Like what are we defending if we’re just going to get in line and shut up anyway?

        Anyways the two parties are still basically the same. We deserve an actual left wing party.

  • Agent641@lemmy.world
    15·
    2 days ago

    The meaning is clear. Dems only have 3 short years in which to rack up a fuckload of crimes, if they want to beat the GOP.

  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.eeEnglish
    61·
    1 day ago

    Both parties are capitalist and support First Past the Post voting in the states they control.

    Of course there are differences, don’t you want more differences?

    Think the Republicans getting control in government is a existential threat? Then you should be open to using every and any tool available to fight this from becoming reality. That means taking a big gulp, and considering that perhaps the democrats don’t have what it takes to take on the Republicans.

    So democrats need backup! They need help out there on that debate stage to fight Trump. We need to bring in outside perspectives with fresh ideas in the form of more viable political parties in the voting booth.

    This means we must do away with First Past The Post voting in each and every state in democratic control. Republican ones as well, but at the very least they have an excuse as to why they use a mathematically flawed voting system that doesn’t represent everyone. What is the excuse blue states?

    Time to set aside your pride democrats. Perhaps you really aren’t the future in the USA. You do want a future in the United States of America right? Would you be willing to risk your beloved democratic party not being relevant any longer to save this nation? I’d say, thats going to happen either way. Either the Republicans win it all, or we find a way around this massive blue roadblock of a political party.

    So you may as well do the right thing, and implement Ranked Choice voting in your state before the door hits you on the ass on your way out.

    Political parties are not the USA, the people are. We can set ourselves free with state level electoral reform. Now.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
    422·
    2 days ago

    There’s only one thing the gop loves more than LOUD projection and that’s abusing kids. The party of the grand ol’ pedophiles

    • NOTE: I’m reaching the character limit on Reddit posts, so here’s a website with a list of about 1000 of these republican shit stains on humanity.
      • Snapz@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 day ago

        Because he’s a firehose of bullshit (gish gallop) and projection supported by a documented surge of foreign troll/bot farms helping plant and reinforce disinformation. As planned through years of gop attacking basic access to education, health care and a livable wage… the American people are either not equipped or don’t have the energy to deal with that - especially from the position of a president or candidate even - we’re trained to need a national father that will protect us if we get over our skis, so we are intimidated by the idea of fully opposing the office and the process, which is why we allow a convicted felon, compulsive liar to stand on stage as some sort of peer with a serving president.

    • shasta@lemm.ee
      134·
      2 days ago

      I’m reaching the character limit on Reddit posts

      Reeeeee

  • pastabatman@lemmy.world
    14·
    2 days ago

    I have no idea if these numbers are correct. For me I don’t need any history though. One party is standing behind a guy who has been charged with 91 felony counts in four different jurisdictions and convicted of 34 and counting, and that’s just for stuff he did while in office or as a candidate. He attempted a coup. He fomented a terrorist attack on the Capitol. Still, the Republicans are like, “Yep, that’s our guy!” all while the Democrats tear themselves apart over Biden being old and doing old person things. Yeah it would be nice to have a better option for president, but this is not a difficult decision.

    Please vote, friends!

  • thefartographer@lemm.ee
    1261·
    3 days ago

    Obviously the democrats are more corrupt because they’re getting away with all of their crimes /s

    • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world
      42·
      3 days ago

      It’s funny, the guy below you at the time of my reply is basically saying that without the /s.

      By the way, nice to see you again!

    • umbrella@lemmy.ml
      542·
      3 days ago

      obama bombed the fuck out of syria and no one batted an eye. all technically legal.

      biden is signing some hefty sums (and bombs) to israel, pretty sure thats legal too.

      so, like, yeah maybe. republicans are probably doing more corruption at home too to upset your legal system.

      • Lumisal@lemmy.world
        31·
        3 days ago

        Imagine how much of a criminal you have to be to end up arrested in a system where you have the advantage as a political criminal tho.

        That’s how messed up the Republicans are

  • nul42@lemmy.ca
    14·
    2 days ago

    I’m actually confused because I know Jesse Jackson Jr. did a prions sentence of 2 and a half years for wire and mail fraud and Anthony Weiner did 18 months for sexual offenses. Frank Ballance was sentanced to 4 years for money laundering and mail fraud and William J. Jefferson was sentanced to 13 years for bribery. Jim Traficant was sentanced to 8 years for financial corruption. Which one of these is the 1 prison sentence?

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 days ago

      Who knows? There’s no citation as far as I can tell.

      Its not like we don’t have Bob Menendez pending trial for smuggling gold bars down his pant legs or Henry Cueller queued up for $600k in bribery charges (both of which are apparently fine, according to the GOP aligned SCOTUS…)

      But you’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel when your case for a 2024 candidate slate requires you to call back to the Keating Five and Abscam.

      • nul42@lemmy.ca
        3·
        2 days ago

        I need no convincing. There is a Wikipedia page on this topic and its mostly Republicans listed there but plenty of Democrats as well so the meme really makes no sense to me. AI generated perhaps.

  • johny@feddit.orgEnglish
    236·
    2 days ago

    They are not the same, the republicans are the psychopath shooting up a classroom of kids, and the democrats are the Uvalde cops tasing those that try to stop it.

  • Samsy@lemmy.ml
    224·
    2 days ago

    As a non-american just watching the democratic shitshow I can’t believe why on earth there are only two parties. If the parties are fucked up, build a new one. That’s what democracy is made for.

    Macrons party in France was fresh up from the ground at his first election.

    PS. I’m aware that France is a bad example actually, but the fact about his party is still true.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      61·
      2 days ago

      As a non-american just watching the democratic shitshow I can’t believe why on earth there are only two parties.

      In a lot of cases, there’s only one real functioning party. Smaller states and gerrymandered districts tend to have a single dominant party and a secondary dissident party, with the dominant party controlling all the statewide offices and most of the legislative seats, while the dissident party controls some number of municipal seats where they have a local majority.

      Macrons party in France was fresh up from the ground at his first election.

      Macron spun En Marche out of the collapsed ruin of Hollande’s Socialist Party (*) (for whom he was deputy secretary general until Hollande’s ouster). He was more akin to Lincoln’s Republicans (who emerged from the wrecked carcass of the American Whig Party) or Theodore Roosevelt’s Bull Moose Party (which might as well have been Republicans For Roosevelt Party, given how badly Wilson rocked both him and Taft).

      (*) don’t get too existed. they were pretty thin on actual socialism.

      Le Penn’s National Front has a real foundation (of French fascists) that existed before she started mobilizing the party and will stick around after she’s gone. Similarly the New Popular Front (not to be confused with The People’s Front of Judea rimshot) has a broad coalition of support that transcends any one leader. Both are more in line with a traditional American party.

      • Samsy@lemmy.ml
        2·
        2 days ago

        Looks like I know shit about French politics, thanks, TIL.

        Btw. maybe it needs a strong movement to create a real third party. A workers union for example, there is a lot of potential if they unite. BLM, too. America had strong movements in the past but none of them went into a political party, sadly.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
      32·
      2 days ago

      Americans are near universally convinced that third-parties are a dead end, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. I’ve never understood it and I would’ve thought having two obviously non-viable candidates would challenge that assumption, but it doesn’t seem like anything will. The classic Simpsons bit where both candidates get replaced by evil space aliens but still get elected because “what are you going to do, vote third party?” was not an exaggeration in the slightest. Americans just accept anything.

      • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
        12·
        2 days ago

        its because the indivual states entrenched the two parties. It’s really difficult to form another national party. The two main candidates also often run as nominess for smaller state level parties.

  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
    337·
    3 days ago

    Every US president I remember was a (war) criminal. But it’s not about the individuals, but rather the systemic changes enacted.

  • Kayday@lemmy.world
    281·
    3 days ago

    Is this all elected officials? I’m confused where these numbers are coming from.