The first pinned post can be found here:

https://lemmy.world/post/17530961

That’s where all the engagement and comments can be found, and I’d encourage everyone to participate there.

The reason for THIS post is to direct everyone there.

I’m getting multiple reports that some people can’t see it for some reason. Could be Federation, could be they blocked the user who posted it.

Here’s hoping you all can see THIS one and move over to where everyone else is engaged.

    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldOPM
      683·
      4 months ago

      Conspiracy theories aside, I’d like to see people mocking the injury with little red ear clips, just like these assholes mocked John Kerry with purple heart band-aids:

        • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          181·
          4 months ago

          Because “when they go low we go high” was a stupid strategy, and not only did it not work, but it paved the way for Trump to win.

          Making rhetoric that connects with the idiots and bigots in America who are old enough to vote is, annoyingly, a required part of political campaigns here, especially if your intent is to peel any of those votes away from populist candidates. It’s just social engineering.

            • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              4 months ago

              Eyes on the prize.

              Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia.

              They’re not quite “flyover states”, but they’re less liberal than you might hope.

        • ccdfa@lemm.ee
          123·
          4 months ago

          “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”

          -Nietzsche

    • GladiusB@lemmy.world
      2027·
      4 months ago

      I don’t think it’s a conspiracy theory to think that the actor turned politician decided to act like he was getting shot for attention. He’s a reality show host that says shocking things. I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say he would fake an assassination attempt when it’s in every other movie in Hollywood. This is in his wheelhouse.

        • GladiusB@lemmy.world
          1128·
          4 months ago

          There very well could be bullets. One person died. However, I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say he would sacrifice someone to gain what he wants to gain.

          He has been proven to manipulate with the Russians for the last election. Is it that big of a leap to think he would stage a dramatic scene for sympathy? Plus he walked away without any harm.

        • GladiusB@lemmy.world
          210·
          4 months ago

          Uh huh. You are selling that he’s that important and that people care that much. I don’t buy it. Go forth with your blind eyes. Mine see a better truth ;)

            • GladiusB@lemmy.world
              24·
              4 months ago

              How? I’m removed about how someone else has control over my life? No. I just don’t believe some event is shaking out the way they wanted it to. It’s what half of America has been asking for. Including him.

              • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                41·
                4 months ago

                You did not say it was just shaking out the way they want it to. You were coming up with conspiracy theories for how it happened. Stop playing dumb/innocent. We both know exactly what you’re doing and it is insulting that you think you can pretend it was anything else.

                • GladiusB@lemmy.world
                  23·
                  4 months ago

                  I am not coming up with it. It’s been said since it’s happened. Because he’s a grifter that no one trusts and it’s in his character to lie. Maybe try not being a douchebag and people will care if you are shot at and not think it’s another grift 🤷

                  • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                    2·
                    4 months ago

                    Trump is a piece of shit and a part of me wishes he was just a few cm over but I am also not a psychopath and understand that’s a bit twisted and I can’t let me hatred/fear of him drive me into conspiracy land.

                    Occam’s razor is clear here and we have NO evidence to the contrary. If new evidence emerges showing there is some potential fuckery with what happened I will gladly revise my stance. But until that evidence emerges, all I see is a tragic story of a 20-year-old two years out of high school that thought this was how he was going to solve his/our collective problem.

      • elbucho@lemmy.worldEnglish
        143·
        4 months ago

        So walk me through how that conversation goes in your head. Trump is just this side of senile, so he definitely couldn’t have come up with a convoluted plot involving his attempted assassination, so it 100% would have had to be a suggestion of someone else. So let’s walk through the conversation that must have happened for this to have been a fake assassination attempt.

        “So Mr. Trump, I think that the best thing to do to ensure you’re going to win the next election is to have someone shoot very near you. Maybe the bullet will graze you, maybe it’ll hit the teleprompter and send shards of glass your way. But either way, it’ll be a very close thing, and you’ll suffer a minor injury along the way.”

        Do you honestly think that Donald Trump, the guy who got out of the draft because of bone spurs, the guy who gets queasy at the sight of blood, the guy who has spent the last 2 months talking about how he’d cling to a battery to get electrocuted instead of taking his chances with a shark, would be ok with being shot at? Seriously?

        Because if that’s what you think, you and I don’t occupy the same universe.

        • thesporkeffect@lemmy.world
          22·
          4 months ago

          Be creative. Let’s say you are a decision maker in Trump’s orbit. You think now is a good time to do something big to fire up your base.

          Do you tell trump and risk bad acting or do you set it up without his knowledge? I believe the injury is genuine but that doesn’t rule out the idea that the situation was set up to have a minimal chance of permanent injury to the candidate while giving him incredible PR and the chance to look strong.

          • elbucho@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            4 months ago

            I think that the idea that it was faked is so outlandish that it would require a good amount of evidence before the prospect could even be considered in serious conversation. There is zero evidence that it was faked. By far the most likely explanation is that someone who had a bone to pick with Donald Trump, and who was not particularly skilled at making shots 150 yards away climbed up onto a roof and grabbed the opportunity that lax security provided.

            You start throwing in conspiracies about how it was an inside job, and everything becomes so much more complicated, logistics-wise. Complicated plots do happen, but to suggest that was the case here with zero evidence is laughable.

            • thesporkeffect@lemmy.world
              2·
              4 months ago

              I ain’t saying I believe this. I think it has a low but non zero plausibility level. It’s also not ‘faked’, my hypothetical is a real guy really shooting at trump but with the scenario manipulated to limit permanent damage or death of the candidate.

              It’s more believable than a full faked assassination attempt with fake blood, given the proximity of bystanders and cameras.

        • GladiusB@lemmy.world
          612·
          4 months ago

          I would think the smartest play would to be near him say 10 yards where it would “look” close enough. Actually take out the sacrifice. But then go down and act as hit with a blood pack or cut himself on the ear when he was on the ground. The graze is just an illusion. Kind of like the bullet catch trick if you are familiar with magic tricks.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        92·
        4 months ago

        There aren’t sufficient words to describe the lack of intelligence in this comment.