• HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    Doesn’t bother me; it’s 2 minutes to spray it on, and then re-apply every hour that I’m outside. As long as I’m wearing a hat to shade my face, I don’t have to worry about putting any on my face, and then sweating it into my eyes.

    Doing hard manual labor in the mid-day sun at the height of summer though? That’s def. unpleasant as fuck. I can do 2-5 hours, and then I’m just done for the day. I don’t know how some people can do that for eight hours a day, day in and day out.

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      1 day ago

      Try 10 to 12 hours outside working. If you work outdoors, you ain’t doing no measly 8 hours as a rule.

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        1 day ago

        Disagree; most people that work outside are still working for a wage, and OT pay kicks in once you break 40 hours in a week. That limits most places to 8 hours, unless you’re talking about undocumented immigrants that don’t have any labor protections, or people that are self-employed in some way.

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          1 day ago

          You’ve never been on a construction job site meeting a deadline have you? Been there, done that, got the tan, and I wasn’t an undocumented immigrant.

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            Yeah, I have, and I got stiffed out weeks of pay I was owed because it was with a fly-by-night contractor that had a nose-candy problem. …Which is why I don’t do that any more. (Plus, he insisted on doing shit in the most backassward, bullshit way. I’ll be surprised if his shit doesn’t kill someone some day.)

            If you work for a reputable company–not as a 1099 contractor, which is self-employed–then you probably have to be paid overtime pay. If you get a W2, and you’re not getting OT when you have to put in more than 40 hours in a week, then you need to consult with an employment attorney.

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              7 hours ago

              So you chose poorly the one time. It often happens to the young and dumb - that’s why you got hired. I had a similar situation where I didn’t get paid either. I took the guy’s semi tractor and trailer and kept it until he paid me.

              I’ve done construction work building pole barns over a 3 state area and then I did some road construction running heavy equipment. They always paid overtime after 40 and travel expenses when needed. With road construction the pay could vary depending on if it was for township, county, state, or federal though. The hours almost always 50 to 70 hours a week. Because there was always the next job waiting and a deadline looming to get it done with heavy penalties if you missed them. So OT was never an issue.