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- politics@beehaw.org
Those operatives, in turn, secretly employed the details to rally firearm owners to elect pro-gun politicians running for Congress and the White House, a ProPublica investigation has found.
The clandestine sharing of gun buyers’ identities — without their knowledge and consent — marked a significant departure for an industry that has long prided itself on thwarting efforts to track who owns firearms in America.
At least 10 gun industry businesses, including Glock, Smith & Wesson, Remington, Marlin and Mossberg, handed over names, addresses and other private data to the gun industry’s chief lobbying group, the National Shooting Sports Foundation. The NSSF then entered the gun owners’ details into what would become a massive database.
Oh I got the point Squid, I disagree :)
Tell me, do you feel Jan 6th was a genuine coup attempt? As in, DJT and his ilk were actually interested in and attempting to maintain and consolidate their power in the government outside of the election results?
The facts reported by the Jan 6th committee made it clear that it was a premeditated coup attempt.
Exactly. Now assuming they were successful (or a future attempt is) how do we fight them? I somehow doubt a peaceful march will sway them to restore democracy.
What does this have to do with the post subject? I don’t think anyone here is suggesting a peaceful march in that case.
I have no idea what you mean by “DJT and his ilk.” None of them were breaking into congress. The people that were wanted to install Trump as president and do it by executing Mike Pence. They made that very clear. So yes, that was a coup attempt. I’m not sure why you think Trump had to be directly involved to make it a coup attempt.
If you don’t know who “DJT and his ilk” are, then who is “them” in your response?
Point is, if your government is about to be overrun, why would you give the government/state a monopoly on violence?
Do you trust the police/military to be the sole owners of firearms given the current political climate? I know you don’t like cops Squid, and Trump has already threatened to deploy the military against civilians and political opponents.
I thought your point is it wasn’t a coup attempt.
Your point seems to keep changing.
You also seem to think I want to ban guns for some reason. I don’t know why because I never said I did.
My point hasn’t changed at all, my point was to establish that you agree it was a coup attempt.
Given a possible coup, a list of all gun owners (regardless of political affiliation) is bad. Privacy rights are important, even for people we disagree with.
Remember when I said privacy rights aren’t important? Because I sure don’t.
Maybe I really did miss the point. What did you mean by, “Now is not the time to talk about gun privacy control.”
I took it to mean you didn’t think it was a valid issue for discussion.
You sure did.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4279085-speaker-johnson-says-now-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control-problem-is-the-human-heart-not-guns/
https://meidasnews.com/news/rep-collins-its-not-the-time-to-talk-about-gun-control
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/trump-says-its-the-wrong-time-to-discuss-gun-control-in-las-vegas-even-gun-owners-disagree/
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/sarah-sanders-las-vegas/index.html
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/03/mitch-mcconnell-gun-control-las-vegas-shooting-243418
I can keep going if you like, but something tells me you still won’t get it if I do.
Squid, you are always a joy to converse with. I’d like to know what your “something” is but something tells me you won’t tell me if I ask 😉
You could have just mentioned that you were referencing other responses to previous events. Regardless, I’ll take the L because I guess I did miss the point.