Its time to switch to Linux!
Every OS has a limited life span of support. Linux is no different. Every distro I’m aware of does 5 years or less of support vs Microsoft’s 10 years.
They were got hacked?! Where is has the media been has in all this??!1!
were got
Windows 10? I’m on Linux Mint 22, which is more than double the number.
Checkmate Microsuck.
MFW I revert to Windows 2000
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I mean, it’s so old, it’s probably safer than 10 next year
I have a crazy idea.
What if y’all get together, and make a guide on an easy way to switch to idk Arch, since Valve is working with it.
You know, so that they don’t have to spend a lot of money, and don’t have to worry about losing all their data, and hopefully so they don’t have to learn everything about Linux so they can enjoy using it right away.
Ha, I almost believed that was realistic rereading it.
If these businesses wouldn’t switch to a newer version of windows, what makes you think they’ll switch to arch or any linux distro?
That’s exactly what I said without saying it.
Exactly. Us Linux users, as a collective, tend to shoot ourselves in the foot here because we can’t decide on the “best” distro for beginners. If we all just said one thing, with confidence and without arguments, and without saying “it depends…”, more would probably make the switch.
No major outlets that the average user would frequent are likely to sell laptops with any Linux distro pre installed. Many non-technical users wouldn’t even reinstall Windows by themselves, let alone Linux.
Any of the usual starter distros would be a good choice because once they are in the ecosystem they can find their own path. When a non technical person asks how to get Linux, there is no worse answer than a barrage of information followed by more questions. Just pick one, say it confidently, and assist them to make it happen.
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People like choice, but people don’t want to have to spend time choosing or learning.
That’s why I mentioned Arch - because of the tie in with the Steam Deck. Nice and easy for gamers to make a connection to.
What becomes the difficult sell is that people, in general, don’t understand computers. It’s the bane of my existence. Any Linux distro requires a basic understanding of how computers work. The Windows PC and Apple products were successful because they required no learning and the user was relatively protect from messing anything up.
The Steam Deck was successful because it took that same approach. It just uses a variant of their Big Picture mode users are already used to.
Linux, by it’s very nature, is not something that can be widely adopted by consumers. I think that’s why Apple and Windows (hell, even Google with Android and Chrome OS) can get all the invasive technology to the user they want, and force users to adopt even more invasive things. Because people just won’t learn anything else. And that’s not something any of us can do anything about.
And which distro would you pick with confidence? (Legitimately asking, I don’t know which one I’d pick)
I intentionally didn’t include it in my post because I didn’t want the wave of differing opinions to distract from my point.
Personally, on balance, I would suggest Mint (Cinammon) for a new user, especially if it’s an Internet stranger. Of course, I expect many, many replies disagreeing or explaining why I’m wrong and should pick … something else.
There are loads of distros that are, or claim to be, friendly to new users. As with everything, all have advantages and disadvantages. My kids use Bazzite on their laptops because I can support them and deal with anything unexpected. I wouldn’t recommend it to a random person because the installation isn’t as friendly as others, and it’s not as prevalent, so there is less support via search engines. The forums are quite active, and the community is friendly, but many folk would rather look for an existing answer than ask anything new. Then of course there’s Ubuntu (with Snap et al), Pop!_OS, Elementary, Deepin etc etc. We could probably discuss the merits and detractors of each forever, just like currently happens in so many threads on Lemmy, Reddit and others.
So, why would I suggest Mint? Simply because it’s not a wrong answer. It’s easy to get, easy to install, has a great and welcoming community, and serves as a great place to introduce users to the ecosystem. After using it for a while, they can make their own, more informed choice of their next distro. There are plenty of other not wrong distros to choose from, but Mint is the one I would suggest.
I’m so anti-Ubuntu but I would probably put that out there and roll with it. You can move on to something better once you figure it out anyway.
Absolutely not, even if we could all work together that would be a horrible idea. Linux is not a Windows replacement and the Linux community doesn’t need to be overwhelmed with Windows users asking why a specific feature doesnt work exactly the same.
Then maybe “just use Linux” shouldn’t be the top advice for literally every computer issue presented here.
Agreed, unironically Linux should never be recommended to anyone who wants their computer to work the same. If someone says '“I want Windows without Microsoft” I usually respond with tough luck that doesn’t exist.
It’s actually pretty easy with the guided installer currently shipping with arch, and there are actually numerous guides on how to install Arch.
Choosing not to is perfectly reasonable, but it’s not for lack of effort from the Linux community trying to make things easier and more accessible.
I use arch BTW
-Microsoft
If you want Arch just use EndeavourOS. Its got an easy installer and a slightly less break-neck update schedule and you get the Arch User Repository for all the cool stuff.
There’s a bunch of beginner friendly distros, it’s just that when you want to make things work as well as they did on Windows then you hit a wall.
I’m using Mint (which is as beginner friendly as it gets)… Because my display signal dropped whenever there was load on the GPU on Bazzite (Fedora based) which is also supposed to be beginner friendly…
No easy way to disable the audio outputs I don’t actually use. On Windows? Couple of clicks, all done through GUI.
Wifi antenna didn’t work, had to install unofficial drivers from GitHub.
I’ve got a multi display setup and sometimes I want to switch where things are displayed. On Windows I downloaded Monitor profile switcher and it does everything for me, just had to save the setup to a profile and assign a keyboard shortcut (which isn’t essential as there’s a shortcut to switch it on the taskbar), it’s all done inside the program. On Mint I had to create a script to choose what to display with what resolution and create a new keyboard shortcut in a separate program because the alternative was to have to open the file explorer to open the folder where the script it saved to execute it.
Playing games is easier than ever! Except that games that have both a Linux and Windows version fuck up when it comes to cloud saving on Steam because the save game folder isn’t necessarily the same (and the Deck installs the Windows version by default so fuck compatibility between that Linux running machine and Linux PCs!) so you still have to force install the windows version even though there’s a perfectly playable Linux version!
Don’t want to use the terminal? “Everything can be done without it but using it makes things easier…” When people say that they mean that you can browse the web and write stuff on LibreOffice but as soon as you deviate from stuff that you can accomplish with a simple Android tablet you’re fucked because you’ll have issues you couldn’t imagine. If you don’t want to use the terminal at that point you need to write scripts outside the terminal and then execute them so technically you didn’t do what you needed to do in the terminal but the end result is the same!
I mean, we have no laws about os support.
Imo a very common sense one is to make any software too old to maintain just open source.
Ownership in software should be based on who is willing and capable of maintaining it.
Linux can also be susceptible to attacks and breaches too.
Bold of you to oppose the oppressive Linux lobby here on Lemmy. They are worse than the most militant vegans…
“no, wait, not like that!”
were got hacked
no longer receive security update
Lol, seriously, are you a bot or a propagandist? How do you not see why they posted this?
The fuck you on about? We’re mocking the lack of basic language skills.
Pretty sure w10 still receives updates
It’s scheduled to stop receiving them October 14, 2025.
They often extend these, FYI. But it’s not a big deal, windows 11 is the same as 10, although they removed a lot of features like the metro tiles. It’s like 10, but noticeably worse… Free, though (if you have 10).
1 year until my distro search is forced to come to an end and I must choose one.
PopOS for not tech savvy, Arch for tech savvy. Can’t go wrong.
Currently rocking Kubuntu, it’s okay with my Nvidia GPU, mint was good but hated my GPU. I’ll try popOS next.
They just fired two workers for organizing a protest against supporting Israel. You don’t have to make up conspiracy theories to convince people that Microsoft: Bad.
Step 1: damage your customers
Step 2: ?
Step 3: profit
Most big companies are bad, to be fair.
Imagine a virus that installs linux on that date.
Sounds more like a cure to me
Windows 10 is coming up on 10 years old. Things can’t live forever.
MS learned that from XP.
I recall them saying Windows 10 would be a rolling release and it would be the last one you ever had to buy. Could be wrong though. I don’t pay much attention because I haven’t used it since Windows 7. I don’t have a link to back this up, just my hazy memory.
You are wrong. Some random guy said that on Twitter and people ran with it. It was never officially stated by Microsoft.
Here are three sources reporting that Microsoft employee Jerry Nixon announced it at Microsoft’s Ignite conference in 2015. They announced the transition to “Windows as a service” model, and it is also reported that Satya Nadella described this as a “new era” for computing.
https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57443598
I don’t have a link to a Microsoft source, or the original video/audio, but the sources are reputable enough that I’m sticking with my original statement.
Well, the update from 10 to 11 is free
They are still conceptually different operating systems. There are users who are unable to upgrade because their hardware is deemed incompatible, and when Windows 10 support ends they will be left without updates. Microsoft no doubt have reasons for this, probably some good and some bad, but ultimately this is not the same as the “Windows as a service” that was sold to customers when they paid for the licence.
If you have compatible hardware, that is.
Are you also angry at Microsoft because Windows 10 doesn’t work on a Pentium 150 with 32mb of RAM?
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Anything big happen on January 14th 2020 or January 10th 2023? Legit question
Hold your hats people, the Grammer Nazis are coming for this one. Holy hell.
nice comma splice
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