• taladar@sh.itjust.works
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    13 hours ago

    I really don’t understand this whole Palestine argument. You have the choice between two candidates who both have very similar positions on the issue in a country that has historically never held any other position on it, regardless of who was in power and somehow you make that the one deciding issue for this election even though it literally makes no difference on the issue who you vote for in the election.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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      There aren’t 2 major sides in the US, there are 3.

      The 3rd side never does any formal campaigning (though there is some grassroots self-organised spreading of its message), often wins as it did this time and yet never controls any power because of how the electoral system works.

      One might call the 3rd side the Not Voting Party.

      The entire Democrats campaign was negative campaigning against the Republican Party, something did nothing to take “votes” from the Not Voting Party and then specifically on Palestine, their actions, whilst if one judges them relative to the Republican Party were neutral, very strongly helped the Not Voting Party.

      So if you look at it as a 3-sided contest, suddently the Democrat result is easilly explainable: they didn’t as much lost to the Republicans as they lost to the Not Voting Party, and in that loss Palestine probably weighed heavilly, both because the Democrats broke some pretty strong principles for a lot of people (there aren’t much strongers principles than being against the mass murder of children) thus convincing them to go “Not Voting” and because they did so by supporting ethno-Fascists in Israel (the worst kind of Fascism there is) all the while raging about how Trump was a Fascist, which made them look like evil hypocrites and weakened their only message trying to get votes from Not Voting - the whole “Not voting is voting Trump”: calling the other guy evil and dangerous hardly helps convince the unconvinced when the people saying it are active supporters of an extremelly violent ethno-Fascism that has already killed thousands of babies and tens of thousands of children.