DARPA helps drives technological progress in the US forward. If the EU wants to create a similar agency, key changes will be needed.

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    18 hours ago

    A government funded, unionwide research agency does sound like a good idea to me. But DARPA is a military r&d agency and I’d rather see an agency focused on benefitting civilian life, preserving nature, sustainability and such.
    EU would clearly benefit from concentrating each nations military industries into unionwide companies and projects, too, though, but idk, I feel like we as a society could benefit from a strong, well funded civilian research effort.
    I don’t know if there is such already out there, all I ever hear about is either underfunded or financed by private profit-oriented companies.

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      12 hours ago

      Military R&D has created good technology though, like the internet, and GPS. Both of these obviously benefit civilians.

      Also maybe Europe needs to be more serious about defence and military capabilities, especially if Trump weakens NATO. Macron said yesterday that Europe needs to stop being “herbivores” and start being “omnivores”, otherwise the world’s “carnivores” will push Europe around.

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        11 hours ago

        You’re missing my point. I even stated that the block would benefit from a concentration of military development instead of each nation’s own industries with occasional transnational cooperative projects.

        My point is that I don’t want to simply replicate the U.S. american.military industrial complex and focus more on civilian issues first. Military must stay a means of defense, not a means in andof itself as I often have the impression of the U.S. military is.

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          9 hours ago

          The US defence industry does pretty well though, given that it makes the world’s best military hardware. Although of course Boeing has had problems in recent years so I guess it’s not all great.

          But yeah military and civilian benefits would of course both be good, I’m just saying that military research has produced stuff that also has civilian benefits.

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            8 hours ago

            The US defence industry does pretty well

            At what cost though? What about the rest of the U.S.'s public infrastructure, i.e. healthcare, education system, social security, etc?
            The U.S.'s military industrial complex does well because the U.S. defense budget was $886 billion in 2024.

            The U.S. drives on a fucked up system. We should be very careful about what we use as a role model.

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              7 hours ago

              Sure, I wouldn’t want US-style healthcare for Europe. I’m not saying Europe should copy everything that the US does, but imagine if European research (military or otherwise) came up with something as groundbreaking as the internet… that would be cool.

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      15 hours ago

      EU has Horizon Europe a research and innovation program. And some smaller ones. https://research-and-innovation.ec.europa.eu/funding/funding-opportunities/funding-programmes-and-open-calls_en

      EU also building the world’s biggest ground laser telescope in cooperation. https://www.eso.org/public/teles-instr/paranal-observatory/vlt/

      The issue with EU is that there are so many countries involved that getting everyone on the same page is slow process and with changing local governments projects can be easily abandoned as priorities shift.