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    Unknown respiratory disease was destroying Eldercare facilities in USA way before Covid was ever discovered in China but nobody is looking into those deaths or their origins.

    Of course they investigated it and the article you posted confirms that.

    And this one does too: https://apnews.com/a7320c946aba47f494dc9a2f649bfad3

    The Fairfax County Health Department put out a release on saying that they are investigating, one day before your article was posted.

    https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/health/outbreak-investigation-assisted-living-facility-springfield

    Update: July 29, 2019

    No new cases of illness have occurred in Heatherwood since July 15, 2019. Results of earlier testing submitted to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicated rhinovirus, a virus that causes the common cold. The facility continues normal operations.

    And about EVALI (“vaping disease”)

    https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease/faq/index.html The CDC stopped reporting cases because there weren’t many, but some states continued and EVALI can be troublesome since the symptoms are similar to COVID. It’s suspected that EVALI is/was caused by vitamin E acetate, but there isn’t enough evidence to know for sure.

    https://www.rsna.org/news/2022/march/EVALI-Diagnosis

    Also the COVID-19 outbreak was WAY bigger in scale so of course it’s more interesting.

    TL:DR: Both outbreaks were investigated.

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      https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/health/outbreak-investigation-assisted-living-facility-springfield

      Despite extensive testing of multiple specimens, no specific pathogen was identified as the cause of the outbreak

      So it could have been covid or a precursor.

      https://www.rsna.org/news/2022/march/EVALI-Diagnosis

      “both EVALI and COVID-19 can manifest with similar clinical and imaging findings”

      They literally just got a bunch of people who got sick asked if they vaped and decided it was vaping that got them sick after ruling out a few other possibilities. A percentage of the tiny sample showed no vitamin e acetate so that can’t be the cause.

      Vape usage hasn’t slowed down yet all but EVALI disappeared? That’s like if everyone kept using asbestos but asbestosis just disappeared. Occam’s razor says EVALI was Covid before they knew what covid was.

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        So it could have been covid or a precursor.

        There is nothing that is indicating that. The evidence that we do have is that the “several specimens were positive for rhinovirus, the cause of the common cold.”.

        If it really were COVID (which btw makes no sense since the outbreak ended very quickly and the amount of sick people was typical for the time of year), wouldn’t the testing had discovered that the virus is very similar to SARS-CoV-1 like they did with SARS-CoV-2?

        A percentage of the tiny sample showed no vitamin e acetate so that can’t be the cause.

        We don’t know for sure and a tiny percentage doesn’t necessarily di

        Vape usage hasn’t slowed down yet all but EVALI disappeared? That’s like if everyone kept using asbestos but asbestosis just disappeared. Occam’s razor says EVALI was Covid before they knew what covid was.

        As the article states, EVALI didn’t disappear just because of COVID.

        While there has been a noticeable decrease in EVALI cases since 2020 that is likely due to the COVID-19 pandemic, which has closed schools and limited social activities limited, the illness has not gone away. Furthermore, because EVALI is no longer being officially tracked, it is difficult to know whether cases are increasing.

        “EVALI has by no means disappeared,” Dr. Kligerman said. “We continue to see numerous cases, even during the pandemic, many of which are initially misdiagnosed as COVID-19.”

        One fact which should make it very clear that’s not COVID is that COVID is caused by a virus. And if it were COVID it would have spread and killed way more people, you know one of the famous traits of COVID.

        Even if you believe strongly that it’s still COVID, don’t make up crap about how they didn’t investigate when they absolutely did, in the case of EVALI still do.