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it’s obscenely over priced and this cultist shit doesn’t make it any better. to me shift mq6 is miles better.
and i almost forgot, didn’t they try to pull “copying free software verbatim and slapping a different logo on it”? for a whole group of software?
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So you’re blaming a company for a person not on its payroll writing a weird and dumb email? Ok.
They did do a “slap a logo on things”-thing with FOSS Android apps for their librem.one service. On the other hand, they do actually pay for software development for the Librem 5 in a way that helps the entire #linuxMobile ecosystem - a PinePhone or a Snapdragon 845-powered Android phone running postmarketOS would be way less useful without Purism’s investment. It’s all quite grey.
My first point was “it’s obscenely overpriced”. So let’s dissect that:
- Quadcore CPU (4x1.5 GHz Cortex-A53)
- 3 GiB ram
- 32 GiB storage
- 720x1440 px resolution.
That’s almost worse than my 2015 idol3 which has an octa-core CPU. And it’s freakin’ $1.299!!
On the other hand let’s look at Shift6MQ:
- Octacore CPU (4x2.8 + 4x1.7GHz)
- 8 GiB ram
- 128 GiB storage
- 1080x2160 px resolution.
And it’s €577 (which makes $627) which is less than half of what Librem 5 goes for. Would you call Librem 5 overpriced now?
You somewhat agree with my third point but add that Purism develops software for mobile Linux (which I don’t deny) and say that running pmOS would be less useful without it (which I don’t agree). There’s Plasma Mobile, there’s SXMO (which I love the most) and lately even Gnome Mobile feels more snappy than Phosh. FOSS always finds a way.
Let’s talk about my second point. I said that “this cultist shit doesn’t make it any better” referring to the Louis Rossmann video. If you’ve ever watched the video, you would’ve seen that there’s a real person with a real problem and being stonewalled by Purism (which is not a singular incident by the way, I have seen numerous people saying the same shit). The thing you should’ve done would be to sympathize with that customer instead of coping for the company (if you’re not the person that wrote the e-mail, of course). But here you are debatelording with semantics. Not on its payroll? What the fuck does that even mean? Why would I care about who’s on whose payroll? I care about the community.
Purism is a scam / cult. Louis Rossmann talking about it. Them being a cult Techlore explaining why Purism is garbage.
Do not buy their shit.
All the links don’t work for me, getting a “server not found”.
Fixed, thanks for the heads up!
This guy gets it: it’s an investment. Expecting a full-fledged product equivalent to existing mobile phones is incredibly ignorant. It just shows how little people understand about what goes into software and hardware development. Even worse are people who understand just enough to consider themselves experts yet actually know next to nothing on the topic. Yes, they know much more than the average rando, but they know very little compared to those who work on these things.
People dunk on Purism and the Librem 5 because:
- Purism is shady AF (Louis Rossmann talking about it. Them being a cult Techlore explaining why Purism is garbage.)
- Their phone is way worse specs than similar products, such as the PinePhone Pro, the Pro¹ X, the Fairphone 4 and the Volla Phone, and for a significantly higher price (in fact, the Librem 5 is more expensive than even the iPhone 14 Pro Max, the Galaxy S23 Ultra and the Pixel 7 Pro).
- Even though they are years behind on their preorders, they are now launching a “new” phone with pretty much the same specs and double the price ani, you guessed it, it’s available for preorder, although it’s not even developed yet.
To summarize, Purism is a cult that sells iPhone 8’s for more than iPhone 15 Pro Max prices and then doesn’t deliver or refund them. My old Huawei P10 Lite has better specs in every single way, and it cost one sixth of their price when it was released six years ago.
