• CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    Lenin himself wasn’t the problem and the Statures for him are usually for being a Revolutionary and removing the Tzar.

    Stalin was the actual problem.

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      11 months ago

      Lenin was a counterrevolutionary that brutally suppressed any dissent and directly placed Stalin (being well aware of what a person he was) in a position that would make his later takeover possible.

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          11 months ago

          Lenin placed Stalin as an enforcer to do the dirty stuff for him. It would be very naive to assume Lenin didn’t know the risk involved of putting a former mob gangster in such a position.

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            11 months ago

            Without taking any of the bad stuff from Lenin, from what I’ve read I know that by the end of his life he was not very fond of Stalin, and he was a little scared of Stalin was going to do with all the power. Not that Stalin’s alternative would’ve been a great guy…

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      11 months ago

      Technically correct. They were under Stalins Marxism-Leninism, which was supposed to be a placeholder until true communism could be implemented.

      But it’s a bit disingenuous to split that hair in this thread. The irony being that the latter are all countries that got to experience the kind of gouvernemental structure that Lenin facilitated.

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      11 months ago

      You can argue if they had sunshine scenario communism all day, but they certainly was under the oppressive thumb of USSR.

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        11 months ago

        I didn’t say anything about communism being good or bad there, just that none of those countries ever lived under communism.