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    Not like this. Quick lowering results in massive economic problems due to rapidly shrinking worker base. Birthrate is best keot at 2.0, which results in slow and steady population decline.

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        1 year ago

        Yes, actualy. I am all for degrowth, but if we do it without a plan of how to be sustaniable while doing it, our societies will collapse, brining all of the not-so-ecological things like war unto the fold.

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            What? No. Degrowth is not a codeword for genocide. It’s about creating an economic model in which humans consume sustaniably, rather than feeding infinite growth demanded by capitalism. It’s specificly about avoiding the bombs.

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      Sorry but we humans have been fucking over the planet and our impact needs to be reduced ASAP.

      We have blithely caused catastrophic damage to the ecosystem and have continued to do so for decades after we had the knowledge and capacity to reverse the effects.

      The argument the whole time against changing our ways has been but it will hurt the economy

      Well, we are now reaping what we sowed, so Fuck the economy and let the find out phase begin as soon as possible.

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        Just to preface - I am not a capitalist. I believe in degrowth and communalism. With that in mind, if we just start dropping our numbers at this rate any system we have will collapse. There is no way for human societies to work if the vast majority of its demographic are the elderly.

        We are not doing “the planet” any favors by launching a civilizational collapse. Planned degrowth is not only better, it is literary the only way forward.

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          I am not a capitalist. I beleive in degrowth and communalism

          Honestly?

          Your politics are irreverent, you are still Humans first and only.

          The earth is in the middle of the sixth and fastest mass extension in the planets 3,500,000,000 years that life has existed.

          It is only the second caused by a single species. The other was the great oxygenation event caused by Cyanobacteria.

          The big difference is that we know the destruction we are causing and are doing nothing

          Personally, the best thing that could have happened to planet earth would have been for COVID to have had a mortality rate of 30-95%.