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“The president has been adamant that we need to restore Roe. It is unfathomable that women today wake up in a country with less rights than their ancestors had years ago,” Fulks said.
Biden has been poised to run on what has been described as the strongest abortion rights platform of any general election candidate as he and his allies look to notch a victory in the first presidential election since Roe v. Wade was overturned in 2022.
Last month, Biden seized on a case in Texas, where a woman, Kate Cox, was denied an abortion despite the risk to her life posed by her pregnancy.
“No woman should be forced to go to court or flee her home state just to receive the health care she needs,” Biden said of the case. “But that is exactly what happened in Texas thanks to Republican elected officials, and it is simply outrageous. This should never happen in America, period.”
“Restoring Roe isn’t the only item on Biden’s to-do list. In a second term, the president would aim to “finish the job,” on a slate of priorities his administration has already begun pushing for, Fulks said, including banning assault weapons and high capacity magazines, cutting the cost of insulin and expanding student loan forgiveness.”
This all sounds like shit he should have done in his first term if he wanted Dems to have any faith in him whatsoever.
You seem to think a president can act unilaterally. Or that Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema weren’t holding the senate by the balls until the house got taken by Republicans two years ago.
You don’t have to make excuses for the powerful, you know. There are always going to be challenges to overcome to create positive change. We should judge people by how well they overcome those challenges.
Okay, explain exactly how Biden would have been able to ban assault weapons, cut insulin costs and expand student loan forgiveness without congress. And without SCOTUS blocking it. I’d honestly like to know.
Then why promise it
Because that’s how politics has worked for centuries. Is this your first day on planet Earth?
And why should anyone believe his empty worthless promises he has no intention of doing anything about this time?
We all know that Democrats don’t want to do shit about Roe. We know they’ll find just enough no votes, or find some procedural bullshit excuse, and of course they will never get rid of the filibuster.
I always wonder what proposal you people actually suggest that isn’t Joe Biden walking into the Senate with a gun and pointing it at Manchin.
Then what the fuck is Biden going to do in his second term? You just said he can’t do anything.
I did not say that. That is false.
Then explain it to me. What does “prioritizing” mean? What the fuck can Biden do and why should I vote for him “prioritizing” abortion rights?
Are you going to acknowledge you made a false accusation about me?
Not until you prove otherwise. You haven’t given a concrete example of what he can do.
No. I do not have to prove that I didn’t say something you claimed I said. It is not my job to prove that you didn’t lie. It is yours. If I said Biden can’t do anything, quote me. If I didn’t say it, be an adult and admit you lied.
If the house and senate don’t go blue? Or if they do? Because I assure you I much prefer him vetoing republicans to trump encouraging them
Welp, unfortunately Biden has decided he’d rather block strikes, fuck the BBB and support genocide over getting my vote so…
Party spent decades not codifying it…
Didn’t fight for Obama’s SC seat, just accepted that the next president would pick it to try and help Clinton…
Took no actions since Roe was overturned…
But we’re supposed to believe next term it’ll be fixed?
They haven’t even held a vote yet so voters will know what Dems are going to vote against it.
Why would anyone take Bidens word on this? Isn’t the safe bet to assume the same thing will happen as the last campaign promises? Meaning as soon as he assumes office Biden will either “look into it” or he’ll say there’s not enough D votes so he can’t try.
And the voters still won’t know if their representatives would actually support party platform.
Please identify the Congressional term that had a pro-choice majority that could have passed federal abortion protections but did not. Do beware of the caveat that up until quite recently, the Democrats had a substantial minority faction of anti-abortion politicians from the south.
No one who’s complained about the Dems apparently just deciding to miss what would be one of their greatest political victories for shits and giggles has ever been able to identify when this would have actually passed, but hey, maybe you’ll be the first one.
The Dems had 2 months of a senate supermajority in the 2008-2010 Senate, with a majority in the House, then still had a majority for the rest of the term in both houses and as president. This was their first trifecta for almost 20 years and didn’t deliver on any of their selling points from the 90s.
By 2008, Democrats were very, very, very deep on the “vote for us, we’re saving abortion” side.
Republicans are objectively worse, but let’s not pretend that the Democrats even make at attempt here.
Democrats are so useless as a collective in Congress that Biden appears left leaning.
Man if only there was some other piece of legislation they got passed during that 2 months… Maybe the largest healthcare overhaul in generations?
Fucking breadcrumbs. Banks and insurance companies benefited more from Obama’s presidency than the American people.
And several of those Senators in that supermajority were against abortion rights. I can name them if you actually care.
Mate, I literally warned you against this. Two of those Senators were from god damned Arkansas, one from Indiana, and one from Louisiana. This was not the Democratic Party of the 2020s. Several of them voted for a federal ban on late-term abortions and bans for the use of any federal funding for abortions. Our good friend Joe Manchin was also in that majority.
Please though, do try again. You seemed very confident that this pro-abortion majority definitely existed, so I’ll wait.
And several of those Senators in that supermajority were against abortion right
Sounds like Democrats are shit bags too then and the whole “vote blue no matter who” won’t actually solve anything.
Vote for trump then
Why? Because expecting Democrats to serve the people who’s votes they depend on is to tall an order? How fucking pathetic is that?
Because you seem to prefer them
Do beware of the caveat that up until quite recently, the Democrats had a substantial minority faction of anti-abortion politicians from the south.
“Before you criticise our dear leaders, take into account the anti-choice people who the leadership actively supported and promoted!”
Every time a conservative democrat runs against a progressive or even a further left liberal, DNC leadership supports the conservative.
The last anti-choice Dem representative, Henry Cuellar, was losing to pro-choice progressive Jessica Cisneros until Nancy Pelosi and Jim Clyburn endorsed him and personally showed up to speak at his rallies.
You’re just obfuscating. Don’t you see? There’s nothing the Democrats could have done!
But elect Biden and he will codify Roe.
Democrats are some dumb mother fuckers lol
… democrats are the dumb mother fuckers?
No no you’re right what am I thinking. Donald Trump single handily solved covid. Remember when everyone shoved a flashlight up their ass and drank some bleach?
“I voted thrid party!” (Vote for Trump)
“I didn’t vote!” (Vote for Trump)
“I’m not from america.” OH? Enlighten us. Which shit show describes your government?
Keep saying that when Biden loses because the dems chose a bowl of shit candidate
Well, last time his top priority was 15$ minimum wage.
Fucking Pathetic.
If this is Biden’s top priority, we know it won’t happen.
Just like Trump’s campaign released a statement saying that Trump does not have offensive body odor. We now can confirm that Trump has offensive body odor.
We can also confirm that Biden will do nothing for the rest of his presidency to do anything about abortion rights as well.
Democrats are even more pathetic than republicans. At least republicans actually fight for what they want, even if what they want is stupid shit.
Democrats are fucking pussies.
Abortion rights are super fucking important, but frankly, I’ll just settle for “not snatching defeat from the jaws of victory”, which the Democrats are basically world champions at.
The minute he gets elected “whoops I forgot I can’t do shit without the Senate. Sorry everybody”
I mean, his administration has done lots of things within their power to help protect reproductive rights. You’re not wrong they’d need the senate to codify roe v wade or even be able to get a judge on the supreme court. They’d probably need to end the filibuster to get it through too.
Here’s a summary of some of the executive actions they have taken. https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/08/politics/what-is-in-biden-abortion-executive-order/index.html
His administration has also launched multiple lawsuits across the country trying to protect abortion rights, and defended against Republican lawsuits trying to restrict them further. Having all these federal agencies making rules and regulations trying to support rather than restrict reproductive rights is still important.
So you’re right that he can’t codify roe v wade nationally without senate and house control as well as getting rid of the filibuster or some miracle cooperation by republicans. But all of the executive actions, the resources of the justice department, etc could be used to attack reproductive rights rather than defend them if a republican were to be elected.
Sounds like a whole lot of “fuck all” then.
Well it won’t feel like “fuck all” when a Republican led FDA revokes authorizations for abortion medications, morning after pills, or maybe even birth control across the country, even in states where it’s legal. Or sends federal law enforcement after doctors and others providing mail order abortion services. Or starts trying to withhold funding from states that supplement Medicaid to cover abortions. Or sues states trying to protect health information from anti abortion and anti trans states who want it to harass them. I mean the list of horrible possibilities goes on. The executive department can’t do everything on its own, congress has the most power, but it is still important on its own. Not to mention needing a president friendly to reproductive rights to sign any bill that manages to get passed, or veto any unfavorable bills.
But seriously, save at least a little vitreol for the political party actively working to restrict reproductive Healthcare rights. If even a handful of Republican members of congress, a single digit percentage, were in favor of protecting reproductive rights, this would all be over yesterday. By all means though primary the crap out of any democrat not strongly supporting reproductive rights enough or not supporting overturning the filibuster to do so, I know I will.
Should’ve voted for someone better in the 2020 primaries then. You keep trying to guilt me into making better choices. I’m just turning it back around. Make better choices in the primaries.
The democrats did pass a bill codifying roe v wade though when they held the house then. Biden was in support and would have signed it. It failed in the senate. Not a single republican in support. 98% of democrats in support. Even ending the filibuster wouldn’t have been enough as the lone democratic holdout and 50th senator needed was Manchin (pro life).
I’m just skeptical of the motives of all the people in this thread acting like Biden himself banned all abortions, could bring them back whenever he wanted, and is choosing not to out of some weird extortion scheme for the next election. None of that is even remotely true. And where is all the hate for all the people that did this in the first place and are actively working to make it even worse?!
I have no concerns that Biden would happily sign a bill codifying roe v wade if one were to make it to his desk, considering all he’s done since taking office. I supported Sanders in the primaries, and I think his strong support was helpful at pushing Biden and the party platform further to the left in many areas, even if my preferred candidate didn’t end up on top. For primaries I’m talking any senators who may be soft on this, though honestly the only two I know of are Manchin (who’s leaving), or Sinema (which, yeah that whole situation, also not in the party anymore so job done). Or if you’re a republican, pushing them. Would honestly be the most helpful thing of all to try and get more pro choice Republicans in office in red states.
The democrats did pass a bill codifying roe v wade though when they held the house then. Biden was in support and would have signed it. It failed in the senate. Not a single republican in support. 98% of democrats in support. Even ending the filibuster wouldn’t have been enough as the lone holdout and 50th senator needed was Manchin (pro life).
Then they should’ve voted in 2008-2009. But they didn’t because Democrats are procorporate pieces of shit.
It feels so much like Biden is fucking with us… There’s a whole year left in this term!! You think i don’t see this? You think we’re actually that stupid? I want to at least be lied to less obviously!
God what a slap in the face
I mean, what’s he supposed to do right now? Republicans still control both houses of congress (or, at least, hold enough seats to render both houses impotent). The upcoming congressional elections matter as much as (or potentially more than) the presidential election.
what’s he supposed to do right now?
There’s a lot of cases during his presidency where he could do something within his power as president, and go around Congress.
He has shown he has the willpower to do so when he wants to, just not for things i want. There are many things unrelated to this specific case where it has played out that way.
To me, a dumb working stiff, it sure seems like he won’t use his power to help people like me. So he and you will have to excuse me on this case, where he may not even have the power (as you said), for not trusting him when he promises me something he knows i want without even promising that he will succeed.
It is just too cynically timed, and I’ve heard this one before
There’s a lot of cases during his presidency where he could do something within his power as president, and go around Congress.
Then fuck him for not doing that in his first term.
And that’s precisely what makes this so fucking meaningless. What’s he able to do in his second term for abortion rights he couldn’t in his first? Neither answer is a good look.
