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  • the only objective problem mint has is that it’s so good I struggle to get people I convinced to install it to be interested in other distros and stuff. And that’s fine.

    Mint is a solid choice and the one I recommend to anyone who just wants something that works or doesn’t care about having several choices, and even when someone wants to explore more options I always include Mint. It just works, it’s easy to install that even my non-tech savvy mother on a phone call with me managed to install it and Cinnamon has just enough customization options ootb to make it yours without being overwhelming to a noob like KDE.

    I personally don’t use it cause I am not the biggest fan of using GUIs, debian derivatives and I prefer KDE plasma so I just go with other options (currently Fedora 40, been using Arch and NixOS a lot before this), however even in my case I could most likely turn LM into what I want with some effort (I just don’t see the point in doing that), and my father who has been using Linux since Kernel 1.0 and is definitely a power user swears by it.

















  • EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.worldtoLinux@lemmy.mlStop being elitist, spread Linux!
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    5 months ago

    Especially considering most computer users are operating at a higher level of abstraction (i.e. phones/tablets).

    I don’t consider them computer users because they aren’t using a computer (yes I know they’re small computers but they operate in a different way).

    If they want to use a personal computer, the thing with folders and stuff, they should learn how to use that, otherwise, if they don’t want to learn, they probably are better off not using a computer and use something else instead, like the aforementioned phone. If they absolutely need to use a computer, then they should (in absence of training or teaching at school) at the very least try and figure out how they can and should interact with this tool that costed you a couple hundred €s.

    I never was the average user, even when I considered myself a dumbass who knows absolutely nothing about how to use a computer I was still considered a tech genius by people around me simply because I knew how to download something like a minecraft mod and navigate some folders to move said mod in the correct folder or simply install programs, while most other people around me couldn’t even tell the difference between the browsers and the file explorer.


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    But they know how to use it in accordance with their needs

    Until they have to ask me or tech support how to run something as administrator when they need to do something different for whatever reason. I worked with people in a lab, we do research on a lot of environmental and biological stuff, we sometimes use some quite advanced software, yet some of these people struggle with the most basic operations and they give up as soon as something isn’t working, with the logic “I can’t understand this so why bother”. I’m talking even the installation (on windows) of new programs. And these people have to use WSL to run terminal commands for software made specifically for Linux, you’d expect them to at least understand a bit of the basics, but nope, it’s seen as normal and/or a funny quirk to be illiterate instead of being trained on how to use a computer, at the end of my time there I managed to convert one to the Linux camp (the others want to switch when they get new computers) and he’s well on his way to become the guy who will have to help someone run a program as admin or some other silly shit, and I hope eventually more of them will become literate, but it shouldn’t have needed me or someone else being there for these people to comprehend computer basics, they should’ve been trained at the job or taught that in school.

    There is no reason to not teach these people the very basics. Everyone will need to know what a file is and how to navigate folders at some point, or admin privileges, or some very basic troubleshooting, they should learn that even if maybe they’re only gonna use it twice. It is certainly more useful than knowing what drivers, buses, etc are (yes, this is what they taught us in basic IT class to people not doing IT). Otherwise, if they don’t want to learn that then a computer is likely not the tool for them.

    If we want everyone to be able to use Linux or computers in general, we need everyone to learn how to use their tool. Without this you’ll get a billion phone calls for any small problems by people who don’t understand something basic, don’t want to learn or look up how to solve a problem they think is impossibly hard, and eventually these people will get angry and leave in frustration. Linux is very much an operating system that can work for everyone, even a dumbass like myself or my old grandpas and grandmas, but if we want people who use windows/mac to switch to it we first need to teach them the basics. It is then of my opinion that the people who can’t grasp the basics of how to interact with their computer and refuse to learn (this part is important) should use something else instead altogether.