Oh I don’t give a damn about the whole starbucks v ADA bit. I’m just chuffed by the price of oatmilk being out of sync with reality

Yes: At the grocery store.

No: At multinational commercial quantities.

Look at the processes to create dairy and non-dairy ingredients.

Dairy can be done on the small scale, but it is typically done on an industrial scale where animals are reared and exploited in an extremely labor, water, energy, and space inefficient process. The outputs are raw milk which must be processed into different milk products and pasteurized then refrigerated and transported.

Compare that to oat milk.
Arable land is sewn and watered. It is tended and then reaped. Oats are processed in a crusher and kiln. They are then crushed again, boiled with enzymes, pasteurized, cooled and transported.

Which one really costs more? Everyone is focusing on price at the store but they aren’t asking which product actually costs more. Dairy costs vastly more than oat milk and it is plain to see. The reason oat milk is priced higher is due to low volumes and grocers knowing they can rip off vegan white women which is their overwhelming demographic. The reason dairy milk is priced lower is due to enormous government subsidies and nearly a century of mechanization and optimization.

Why does this matter for starbucks? Because they can easily vertically integrate to remove the price barrier and instead focus on cost. Oat milk costs are extremely cheap when at larger scales like those of a corporation the size of starbucks. Stop focusing on how expensive it is at the grocery store level - it is not an apples to apples comparison to what huge corporations deal with.

I completely disagree because of the huge volumes that starbucks uses. They can just buy chobani and get the oat water at cost.

Eh… at their economies of scale I think the oat water would be far, far cheaper. They’ve vertically integrated quite a few ingredients - what’s oat or almond milk to add to the list?

The idea that it costs more to put oats in a blender with an enzyme is more expensive to produce than breeding and feeding cows is pretty laughable. Non-dairy is only more expensive because of gigantic subsidies that simply don’t need to exist in the modern era.

Edit: the number of you simping for a gigantic corporation is surprising. Oat water is cheap to make. Milk is not. You buy milk at the grocery store nearly at cost. You buy oat milk in branded containers in the yuppy-vegan-white-women priced section at gouging prices. Starbucks does not have costs like the grocery store lists their prices.

Did anyone find it suspicious that the FBI didn’t identify and publish a direct motive? Do you think the reason for his nutjob behavior was somehow covered up by the FBI because of the administration?

Yeah I think no one stops to ask who those silicon valley jerks sell our data to. The answer is anyone. Including big brother who otherwise cannot legally collect it - but it’s legal now because a company did it and we bought it!

I very nearly bought one back in the day. Instead I opted for an mp3 player with compact flash storage. I believe I was tired of my cd based walkman’s tendency to skip when I was moving so I wanted a smaller, non-moving drive.

Then my dumbass bought one of those compact flash drives with an internal platter harddrive.

Those displays are not televisions - they are for menus at restaurants. They cost a fortune because they are low volume, high reliability devices that come with service contracts and repairable components.

OK how do I go about getting Roku to refund me for my TVs? That sounds like an excellent approach to take.

There is no hardware reset switch and in order to perform a software reset you need to get to the menu and to do that, you have to agree to the terms.

Yeah, computer monitors are manufactured to a different spec than television displays at the pixel level. This is usually called chroma subsampling.

Computer monitors typically are 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 which gives nice crisp and legible fonts. Anything less than 4:4:2 gives me a headache (also Windows…).

Television displays are usually 4:2:0. That’s fine for rendering large text that is visible across the room. But trying to edit a word document would be a terrible experience.

I believe they manufacture the television panels with fewer pixel address lines and that reduces the cost. Also, smart TVs sell ads and your usage patterns which are used to subsidize the cost of the tv.

That’s why computer monitors are so much more expensive than televisions.

HDMI CEC will let your other devices turn on the monitor and switch inputs as appropriate. You’ll need some kind of AVR to play audio. Plenty of low cost, highly capable solutions out there like the WIIM Amp that lets you use multiple sources such as your PC or a dedicated streaming set top box.

The downside is those are meant to be ultrabright for viewing in a highly lit restaurant counter with a really slow refresh rate and they tend to cost thousands of dollars. They are simply not meant for use as a display for movies and games.

Sounds like a good way to get a new tv and move away from roku. They’re really piling on the ads lately and making their os really slow.

Dang… mine is on 12.5.5 and the newest they support is 9.4.0

Bad news sells. Good news goes unnoticed.

Several comments specifically talked about VMs for the various apps. And frankly I’m not super familiar with the limitations of containerizing apps either. That’s part of why I was looking for an immutable os + flatpacks / snaps - it’s much more similar to a normal linux system just organized in a way to not break shit.

Federation of a service is confusing because it is a difficult problem to conceptualize. There’s no way to easily explain how to use federated services to non techies.

For me? That’s fine. I can use federated stuff.

For my mom? Nope. But she needs to get off the internet in general so that’s probably a bad example.