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Cake day: December 16th, 2023

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  • I don’t think any swing voter is “gettable” or “hanging on this debate” though. Pretty significant misrepresentation of my position there so hope this helps. Lot of time till November.

    I do, however, believe there are a) left leaning voters in swing states who are turned off from voting blue by the Democrat defense of Israel and capitulation to the conservative framing of the border, and b) right leaning voters in swing states who see that Biden brings up immigration in order to support his abortion position and feel hugely vindicated and double down on their intent to vote MAGA.

    Maybe I shouldn’t have used the term “swing voter,” I’ll to back and edit that.










  • i don’t disagree. but it’s insane that it’s happening because it’s such a losing move.

    i saw someone put it like this: imagine if in 2016 Bernie was still in the running and for some reason Trump began capitulating against his voter base and decided that medicare for all was a good idea.

    for the swing voters that care about healthcare, is that sudden and strange reversal going to encourage them to vote for the brand new candidate with that platform? the answer is obviously like, no way, they are going to stick with Bernie who has always had that position.

    in the same way, Biden now more than ever doing moves that are pretty unpopular with progressive constituents isn’t going to make him look good in the eyes of would-be Trump voters. they are just going to see a guy who happens to now agree on one point, and feel a bit vindicated on their merry way to vote for the fascist that always had that position.








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    I don’t know if you missed the part where he brought up “rapist immigrants” when trying to answer a question about abortion that should have been a layup and was absolutely key to this debate being meaningful to voters who are confused, apathetic, or considering voting 3rd party, especially those in swing states.

    That was also very unexpected, highly disappointing, and totally unrelated to his tone or volume. No amount of moderation could have helped that.