A Michigan vigilante who amassed thousands of social media followers with his unauthorized hunts for pedophiles was shot and killed in a confrontation with two teenagers, police said.
Robert Wayne Lee, 40, of Pontiac, was better known as Boopac Shakur online, where he would often pose as a 15-year-old girl to expose alleged predators.
Authorities say that Lee accused one of the teens at a local restaurant of being a pedophile and punched him—leading one of the boys to pull out a knife and the other to fire a gun. The suspects fled but were later arrested.
The Oakland County Sheriff’s Office noted Lee’s unsanctioned activities—and their uneven results—in a news release about his slaying.
“His one-man crusade has led to the arrest and criminal charges being filed against several men,” it said. “He has also mistakenly identified someone as a sexual predator who was not.”
Videos that Lee posted to Facebook showed him confronting the men he corresponded with while posing as a minor in the style of the show To Catch a Predator.
A GoFundMe to benefit his daughter said Lee “dedicated his life to protecting the innocence of our children from those with malicious intentions. Through his courageous efforts, he successfully exposed 132 predators who sought to harm our community’s youth.”
However, in January, police confirmed just four arrests based on Lee’s videos, according to the Oakland Press. Police had asked Lee to stop his sting operations, but he persisted and even announced classes for others who wanted to follow suit.
Lee denied he was a vigilante. “I’m a concerned citizen,” he told the Press. “A vigilante is doing police work without a badge.”
“I’m just putting the fishing pole in the water and seeing who’s biting,” he added.
There is something so weird about this. I don’t think these guys are trying to protect children, I think they are getting off on the roleplaying and using the ‘hunting predators’ thing as an excuse to justify it.
See also the ammosexuals who fantasize on the daily about the day they get to “defend themselves” against a “home intruder”
The hero complex is IMO just the masking of sociopathic violent fantasies in self righteousness. “No no no, I’m not obsessed with being able to kill justifiably, I just REALLY hate pedos!”
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It’s literally for money. He makes a living from the amount of views it gets.
I see your point, and agree with it. I’m sure a lot of it do it for the fame and it’s not really about protecting the kids to them.
But, even if they’re doing it for their own self-interest, they’re still doing a good thing. You don’t have to have good intentions to still promote positive change. I couldn’t care less for the guilty people they find, good riddance, they don’t belong in society.
That being said, if they falsely accuse people to try and keep growing their influence, then it becomes a problem
even if they’re doing it for their own self-interest, they’re still doing a good thing
Are they? Teenagers attracted to teenagers is wrong now?
Depending on the age difference, yes.
he would often pose as a 15-year-old girl
Authorities say that Lee accused one of the teens at a local restaurant of being a pedophile
Let that sink in.
He accused a teen interested in an age-appropriate partner of being a pedophile. The age difference between the people that killed Lee, and the ‘victim’ Lee was pretending to be online is, at most, 4 years.
Fuck that dude. That kind of accusation wrecks lives.
And as an adult man posing as a young girl, how can you possibly pose as specifically 15? Do you wear a sign with your age? I would bet he looked much older than 15. He probably looked older than these teens, because he was older than them. I don’t understand how you can be called a pedophile by being attracted to an adult man in women’s clothing unless he’s broadcasting his fake age somehow.
“hi my name is Sally I’m 15 years old and I’m a huge Swiftie!”
…like that.
You know, I just realized it was probably online and he only got shot after trying to get them to meet in person. I was thinking posing as a 15 year old girl meant in person and that’s when the attack happened. How stupid does this guy need to be to do this to other teenagers online?
While they managed to catch 4 people, out of a total of 132 people that doesn’t sound very good, and might have even made it harder for the police to catch these people. One of them was found to be innocent, what if more of them were?
I really don’t understand the boner so many Americans seem to have for vigilantism
Just fix your goddamn police system - there’s a reason why vigilantism is outlawed since it’s too easy to misjudge or misidentify stuff and the consequences are horrible - let professionals do their job properly
While we do have a problem with vigilantes deciding that their contribution is vitally necessary to keep things running (see: Kyle Rittenhouse), I’m not really sure this qualifies as vigilantism in support of the law or even to protect kids from predators. Honestly, this just strikes me as yet another wannabe influencer/YT ‘star’, only instead of ‘restoring’ old items, cleaning cars/yards/houses, edging over weird ‘recipes’, or popping pimples, this guy’s schtick was ‘going after pedophiles’.
Just fix your goddamn police system - there’s a reason why vigilantism is outlawed since it’s too easy to misjudge or misidentify stuff and the consequences are horrible - let professionals do their job properly
We’ve tried that, but the problem is they can’t seem to do it without executing people, and/or the neighbor’s dog, for fun.
Oh sure, lemme just fix the police system real quick. Give me a minute. I don’t know why nobody thought of that!
Why don’t I just strap on my fix the police system helmet and hop in the fix the police system cannon and fire myself into fix the police system town where police reform grows on trees?
Fixing the police is great but I don’t think that’s enough to reduce child rape.
Find the causes—childhood abuse / neglect, most likely—and aggressively address these social ills. Find more reliable ways to rehabilitate and use it for those convicted. Among other things.
I think part of it has something to do with the popularity of superhero movies like Batman and such. Honestly I think having the world’s biggest movie production system has been a net negative for Americans and humanity as a whole.
Alan Moore, who wrote Watchmen, was trying to make this point through his media, but he also explicitly stated it in interviews. He was like, “Y’all do realize that superhero stuff is fascist power fantasy, right? You shouldn’t like this stuff as an adult.”
Love his work as Rasputin impersonator.
Just fix your goddamn police system
Policing doesn’t prevent crimes.
And it was never really intended to.
Vigilantism also doesn’t - what’s your point?
I never suggested that it did.
Actual police has better stats than this dude, and police is garbage
I went through a period where I binge watched a bunch of episodes of that show, but I read that it was difficult to convict some of the people they caught because adults posing as children to lure people into getting arrested is considered entrapment or something. Therefore, their method of catching them could be considered unlawful, leading to the case being thrown out.
Dude accuded aTEEN for being a pedo.
What???
Don’t most states have Romeo and Juliet laws that specifically say a 19 year old wanting to date a 15 year old is acceptable? Maybe it’s only a 3 year gap or something. IANAL.
Why were they charged? Sounds like a pretty obvious case of self defense.
If you have to use any kind of deadly force in self defense, it is always in your best interest to be the first one on the phone with 911. Police aren’t known for their critical thinking, so the first story they get is most often they one they are going with until proven otherwise.
If one of the teens had called 911 and said some creepy guy catfished and physically assaulted them first, this story would probably read a lot differently.
Disclaimer: Not victim blaming. More of a PSA. And really one of the very very few times I would recommend calling the police.
Probably a magnitude of force issue. If they didn’t legitimately fear for their life, then deadly force in response would be a crime.
Magnitude of force of a 40yo vs. a teen makes the self defense acceptable imo
“He has also mistakenly identified someone as a sexual predator who was not.”
You can feel the shrug as the policeman makes this statement.
This guy is a product of American society. This type of entrapment is considered to be a legitimate tactic. A place where becoming a stooge diminishes your sentencing. Somewhere rich white people get a completely different version of justice to poor black people.
Police had asked Lee to stop his sting operations
And replace them with what? What are the useless cops going to do?
Unless a business-owner is complaining, cops won’t do shit. They don’t care.
This guy was selling classes on being a pedophile-stopper while most of these youtube pedo chaser operate in ways that don’t lead to prosecution.
He stopped a 17 year old from talking to a 15-year-old, which isn’t exactly making the world a better place
