Bonus points if it’s usually misused/misunderstood by the people who say it

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    9 months ago

    Whenever “woke” is brought up.

    Please give me your definition of woke, because so far it’s been different for everyone I’ve talked to.

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        9 months ago

        That’s what it should mean, but it usually implies political awareness specifically and has been hijacked by several minority groups and their allies to imply that they are wholly in support of whatever the latest minority issue is.

        You haven’t heard of lgbtbbqx+? I have because I’m woke!

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          It was originally used by African American groups to describe white allies at the beginning of the last century.

          It’s evolved to describe any out group that’s aware of an in group’s problems.

          It’s been contorted be this decade’s scare word that conservative media uses.

    • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      9 months ago

      I think you’re misunderstanding it. Do what you do, you’re going to break something anyways just don’t half-ass it. Just like there’s a graveyard behind every doctor, there’s a pile of mistakes behind every sysadmin.

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        9 months ago

        No, it’s not about caring or not about the consequences.

        The ideea is to do something, anything with full commitment, do it as you know you’re going to be successful. This way you give 100% and you have the best chances to succeed.

        If you just try something then from the start your mentally taking in consideration the possibility of failure and you’re preparing for that scenario and searching for the signs of it, which means you’re not 100% invested in the success of the task itself so the chances of success are smaller.

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            9 months ago

            I think you’re referring to generalisations in the sense of cognitive distortions, but this is not the case. The saying merely calls for one to be completely dedicated to whatever task he undertakes in order to maximize his chances of success. Having doubts and starting to hatch a plan B actually takes resources (mental or emotional) from realisation of the actual task.

            When you say: I’ll try to … you’re actually stating your doubts about you capability to successfully do whatever task from the beginning. So you’ve already defined what failure is and what to do in that case. But you haven’t even begin the task and the journey that comes with the realisation of it. You haven’t even reach the first difficulties, the first hurdles.

            I hope you know that The Sith is a fictional construct :)

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      9 months ago

      I actually love this one, because it’s technically correct but not in the way people who use it mean, so you can turn it around easily.

      Yes, you did get cancer for a reason. Because you insisted on maintaining your suntan every winter. Or perhaps merely because you pissed off the wrong banana.

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        9 months ago

        In my case, it was through no action of my own and merely bad luck. So the only “reason” would be bad luck or a shitty all-powerful deity.

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          9 months ago

          That’s the malicious banana. Everything happens for a reason, but that doesn’t mean it’s reasonable

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    9 months ago

    “Galileo too was ostracized for his beliefs, but he was right”

    Yeah but he did science, not that new age bullshit you think are an expert in.

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      9 months ago

      They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

      —Carl Sagan

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        9 months ago

        Columbus thought the world was pear shaped. Meaning it was viable to get to India by going west. If the Americas didn’t exist he would have died.

        It was well known at the time that the world was round. The ancient Greeks had a very good calculation if the circumference of the earth.

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      9 months ago

      I thought that was the joke: I could care less… but I can’t even be bothered to care any less because I care so little.

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        9 months ago

        It’s just people saying it wrong, like “bone apple tea” instead of " bon appetit". It’s supposed to be “I couldn’t care less”. But I mean come on, these are the same people who searched for “Michael Jackson Billy’s Jeans” so often on YouTube that it became a recommended search term. Lol.

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    9 months ago

    “Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise”

    You do realise that people who are awake during the night are of equal importance, who’s gonna run those power plants and radio stations and petrol service stations and police forces and whatever else? If they shut off during the night, there’d be chaos. At least a chaos that most folks won’t see because they’re asleep or something.

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    9 months ago

    Occam’s razor, because it seem it is often used wrong by using it for just shutting down possible explanations. Typically noone mentions, that this is about guessing probabilities without prior knowledge and not a way to completely ignore an explanation.

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      9 months ago

      Yes, it’s a way to move forward with incomplete knowledge, when you need to make assumptions regardless of which theory you go with. There will always be an asterisk by theories or decisions made with this method, because one of more of the assumptions themselves could later turn out to be incorrect, thereby invalidating your decision. Occams razor is very misunderstood and used or quoted incorrectly all the time.

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        9 months ago

        In fictional media I’ve mostly seen this the other way round. Like "I don’t want to believe this expanation, so it should not be considered "

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    9 months ago

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. And as far as I can tell Einstein never said it but it’s always attributed to Einstein

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      9 months ago

      If I just rolled a 6 I’m not going to expect the same result if I roll the die again.

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        9 months ago

        I would argue that you didn’t roll the die the exact same way…

        Of course there could be other things other than your movements like wind that also affects the outcome.

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          9 months ago

          Right, so even if I’m doing the same thing I’m not doing it in the exact same way, so the result may be different.

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    9 months ago

    “Settled science.” Used by people who don’t understand that science at its heart is constantly questioning everything.

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      9 months ago

      We’re taught that intelligence is performative. So most people think intelligence is answer driven, clever people know that it’s question driven. But a gameshow where contestants ask the right questions might not do as well as Jeopardy.

      Edit: my dumb ass picks the gameshow where you famously have to literally ask the right questions as an example.

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    9 months ago

    That trickle-down economics quote. There’s studies about it [not working] published but it’s just studies.

    The original quote is “If you feed enough oats to the horse, some will pass through to feed the sparrows” from Galbraith.

    I imagine people are not yet ready to learn this “promise” ain’t holding water.

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      The original quote is “If you feed enough oats to the horse, some will pass through to feed the sparrows” from Galbraith.

      If my goal is to feed sparrows that’s a very costly and inefficient method. I also end up with an overweight horse.

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    I guess you don’t see it too much these days (outside of maybe yearbooks or collections of inspirational quotes), but Frost’s “I took the one less traveled by,/And that has made all the difference.”

    If you read the rest of the poem the narrator explicitly states in several different ways that the roads are pretty much the same. So the narrator is saying that by later on saying the roads are different he’ll be retroactively be justifying his choice or just not telling the truth about it.

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      9 months ago

      Even after rereading the poem I had to read the Wikipedia analysis section to be convinced you are right. It’s a very subtle poem, which, honestly, just makes it better.

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        I always thought the confusion came from just seeing the last two lines out of context, because the poem itself has descriptions like “Then took the other, just as fair”, “Had worn them really about the same”, and “both that morning equally lay”. It seemed like Frost was really hammering home the equality, considering 15% (3/20) of the lines are talking about the similarities.

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          That’s the thing. Being just as fair doesn’t necessarily imply it’s equally travelled. Even being worn the same doesn’t necessarily mean equally traveled, although it strongly implies it. I think the final line is so certain that it overrides the earlier lines and implies to the unwary reader that these similar paths actually were differently travelled.

          I don’t expect self contradiction in a story / poem. So that certainty of there being a difference overrides all.

          It’s only after reading the author’s intentions that I know for sure that the contradiction was intended and that was actually the point of the poem.

          As I said before, this makes me like the poem even more now.

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      9 months ago

      Well technically, we’re a constitutional monarchy with the King of Canada as our nominal head of state. Gosh. Though I wouldn’t mind opening that discussion.

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        9 months ago

        …constitutional monarchy with the *rightful heir of Emperor Joshua Norton as our nominal head of state.

        Fixed that for you, prepared to go to war over it