I don’t think the aggression was warranted or helpful, and only served to stagnate the discussion.

Lmfao, whatever makes you feel better and not have to confront realities that make you uncomfortable… 🙄

(E: realities that you actively contribute to by tone policing, and framing and dismissing people whose rights, and lives, are being abused and put at risk as “aggressive”, which is a classic and well documented silencing tactic, whether you knew you were doing it or not. You also literally contributed nothing to the conversation. So basically your entire reply is one big projection, almost impressive)

Lol, I wasn’t making an argument that anything is “because of the Overton window”, the OP of this thread is literally describing how the Overton window works. You, and that other person not liking or understanding it, doesn’t change that, nor the fact that what op described is demonstrably happening in politics right in front of your fucking eyes, and only “doesn’t follow logic” if you’re aggressively wilfully ignorant.

It really does though…

Overton window

I mostly drink spicy chai, supermarket own brand, or twinnings if they’re on offer.

It’s no longer the case that everyone in America is equal under the law.

Is there a “never has been” version of the “always has been” meme?

Them taking the mask off and being open about it is serious and dangerous don’t get me wrong, but lets not pretend the law is, or ever was written nor administered equally - filthy rich and powerful white men in particular have always put themselves above it.

Hopefully the UKs situation improves from the past 14-15 years of the Tories rule

This is all the confirmation it takes. You’re close, but if you still think Starmer’s Labour is going to change anything fundamental about how things are run, you’ve not been paying attention.

America’s big problem is not Joe Biden, it’s the menace to democracy posed by Donald Trump

It’s neither, the problem is the illusion that we call democracy, and the compromises we (the people, not the rulers, of course) are told we have to make in order to maintain it (AKA the status quo) despite it being designed to keep us down (again, by providing an illusion of choice) rather than serve us.

As another person already said - trump is just a symptom, it is the system that enables and encourages his existence, and it is the system that needs to be abolished if the working class is to ever have a shot at justice, equity, and equality.

Articles like this are acts of systemic self defence - deflection to keep us looking at the illusion instead of the reality.

Lmmfao, ok, if we’re going for context, you’ve managed to conveniently leave out a massive bit of it - that Sir Starmer, the current Labour leader and as much a part of the establishment as any Tori politician is, has not only publicly declared transphobic shit like men = penis woman = vagina, but is now also taking advice from Joanne herself, after she called him out for not being a big enough terf, and he in turn and without even blinking, willingly obliged to prove her wrong (and that he aspires to be just as prolific a transphobe as she is).

The idea that only Tories are responsible for the institutionalised transphobia in this country, and that blue Labour is going to do anything but continue toeing exactly the same line, is not only laughable, but glaringly and wilfully ignorant.

So yeah…

you’ve not been paying attention…

If you think those in power in the UK, widely known as TERF island, aren’t deliberately and actively trying to harm trans people (among others), you’ve not been paying attention,.

A compelling argument I’ve heard is that the greatest performance enhancing drug is being exposed to testosterone during puberty and that seems to be the base line a lot of the sporting organisations use

It might be compelling, but that doesn’t make it true (the testosterone in puberty part, not the sports organisations using transphobic rhetoric part, though as you can see bellow, even the International Olympic Committee, arguably the biggest global sports organisation, doesn’t advocate this thinking)

several key conclusions coincide with findings from the IOC funded study, including…Testosterone levels do not predict athletic performance or overall athleticism.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindseyedarvin/2024/04/25/transgender-athletes-could-be-at-a-physical-disadvantage-new-research-shows/

How the fuck has she been allowed to get away with it for so long I don’t know.

Those in power agree with her, and are probably glad she’s so willing to do their dirty work for them

I have faith in some kind of course correction,

Then neither you, nor Michael Eisner are paying attention (though LMFAO at you bringing a former Disney exec, not even a creative but a business man, as representation of someone who gives a shit about cinema. That’s like quoting Musk on environmental issues. Hint: People like that absolutely have been paying attention, things are going great for them, they just can’t not lie to make themselves feel important, and to make their shareholders, and people like you, believe in some white/greenwashed fairy tale they spin for you while they continue exploiting people and destroying industries out of sheer greed for money and power).

Also, the idea that if the big corporate propaganda machines fail, cinema fails, just goes to prove how well said propaganda works.

Gaslighting the public in to maintaining the status quo for the rich and powerful…

E: and before the die hard liberals descend on me and accuse me of being a trump supporter because they can only see the world in blue or red - the alternative being worse doesn’t make your guy any good (nor did I mention the word “vote” - or don’t - once), it only proves that the system is rigged to never serve you. Now if only you were willing to confront this admittedly uncomfortable fact and move on from the fairy tale you’ve been sold, we might actually get some progress instead of treading water by “reducing harm” (all the while harm is not actually being reduced, we’re just being held hostage in exchange for it theoretically not getting worse)

Movies are bombing now, and they keep churning out the same, and consistently worsening, garbage.

Studios will fire their entire staff in exchange for an AI megafarm before they consider “wasting” any more of their time on quality. Why would they when quantity is enough to fill their pockets?

So called enshitifaction is taking hold everywhere, what makes you think the entertainment industry is any different?? Hoping for shareholders to give a shit, at this point in time, is laughable.

It’s such a shame it’s all of our collective necks that boot you’re licking so enthusiastically is stomping on, not just yours.

People are starting to get bored of the live action soulless remakes

Lol, you think the companies throwing billions at AI give a shit? It’s only going to get worse from here…

More power to them, we need collectives like this in every town and city. Build communities that exist to serve and support their members, not line the pockets of some already obscenely rich capitalist that has probably never even set foot locally.

reminded me of

ID: comic showing a homeless person sleeping in a doorway when a cop comes and tells them it’s illegal to sleep in public. The homeless person replies saying they guess they’ll just go to a hotel tonight, or maybe their townhouse or the Hamptons, then make a mock call to “Smithers” saying their “super fun street sleeping holiday” is over and asking which mansion they should sleep in, as the cop thinks “next: outlaw sarcasm”

Well, no, they aren’t fighting homelessness at all, that would mean trying to reduce, not to mention eliminate it.

Capitalists want homelessness, so that they have a whole under class of people to lock up and exploit, and that also serve as a warning to the rest of the working class.

The war is definitely against the homeless, not homelessness.

My 2 year wait was over a decade ago, so looong before covid. The fact that things are worse now isn’t really surprising considering the service is now basically a hollowed out carcass with several hundred private firms picking it apart…