This is a pretty thoughtful response, I appreciate you taking the time write it. I agree in spirit with what AOC wants to accomplish. Some of those judges (Clarence Thomas) shouldn’t be anywhere near the Supreme Court. My fear is that this plan only works if the impeachments proceeding are successful, they manage to successfully replace the current justices with new ones, AND enact meaningful change in a short period of time to make that a situation like this doesn’t happen again. If they fail at any of these things, then the Republicans, who don’t respect precedent, process, or the rule of law, would just weaponize the impeachments to remove the justices and replace them with their own whenever they get a majority in government.

Biden is bad objectively, I don’t how you can look at him and say “wow, that’s a good president”. Despite his glaring flaws, he still preformed better than I expected, and he’s leagues above his opponent who also has glaring flaws, but 100x worse. It’s pretty sad that we’re in a position we’re these are options.

In my opinion, MAGA officially crossed the line from being a fringe political movement and into a genuine cult after 2020. It was pretty bad starting all the way back during his first campaign in 2015 and it got gradually worse over the years. However, during 2020 MAGA turned into an actual national security threat, not once, but twice. First, during the anti-vaxx shit were they literally denying the existence of the virus, or even worse, they were actively mocking the people who died, and then again after they lost the election and attempted the coup.

Any sane conservative who didn’t nope out pretty early on in his term distanced themselves after Jan 6th. The only people who still supported Trump after what he did were the ones that worshipped him. Since Jan 6, 2021 Trump’s MAGA consist of people who will follow him no matter what, will listen to whatever he says no matter how false or dangerous, and will unironically want him as a dictator. I think the cult thing became most apparent when supporters were wearing diapers in a show of support for him… that’s so batshit crazy that it leaves me speechless.

I work in tech too, I have never met anybody who actually a strong opinion either way over him. That’s mostly an online thing.

No, I agree. I think for all his flaws, Biden has been a better president than expected. I’m just pointing out that there IS a lot to criticize Biden and the Democrats for. From running Biden a second time to not better executing the withdrawal from Afghanistan to placing restriction on how Ukraine could defend itself when Putin first invaded to not focusing on rebuilding their image in states like Florida or Ohio to not going at Republicans harder to a lot of Democratic politicians participating in insider trading… they’re not great. In fact they’re pretty bad. Are they as bad as the Republicans? No, of course not. But the statement that both parties in the country are bad does hold some truth to it.

They don’t happen during election years, they happen every year. That’s the thing with a two party system, a lot of people will disenfranchised from both parties. People who don’t support either candidate or either party are forced to pick between the lesser of two evils, and therefore will end up voting for a candidate that’s neither good or aligns with values.

You’re absolutely right. I interpreted your comment as sarcastic but when i read it a second time, I see we’re on the same page. Sorry about that.

Please remember that this particular groyper meme is a literal copy of a Trump 2016 meme with the word “Trump” replaced with “Biden” and was deployed regularly by the alt-right

So what? You have to stop doubling down on this idiotic argument because it is getting ridiculous. Guilt by association and purity are heavily frowned upon and criticized throughout history for a reason. Different things have different meanings in different contexts, and you can’t judge people without proper contexts and for things they’re not or didn’t do. This should be obvious, but for some reason it isn’t.

This meme and others like it all originate from 4chan and the other imageboards similar to it, and these boards are responsible for internet’s most famous memes. Just think about what has come out of 4chan for a second:

• Wojak and its variations

• Pepe and its variations

• LOLcats

• Pedobear

• Anonymous

• Rickrolling

• The popularization of Chocolate Rain

• Greentext

• Rage comics

• The ungodly origin of “Bronies”

• The Shia Labeouf fiasco

• The 4chan-Tumblr wars

• Pool’s closed

They are quite literally the foundation of internet culture. Everybody who grew up on the internet was used or at least enjoyed any of these. These imageboards are built on the idea that the internet is the wild west, where everybody no matter how tame or extreme, no matter how good or evil, and no matter how pragmatic or delusional can get together and shitpost. And guess what? 4chan and these other imageboards were ALWAYS cesspools filled pedos, Marxists, neo nazis, anarchists, racial supremacists, misogynists/misandrists, and so on, but at the same time, they’re also filled with a lot of normal people. Regardless, if we follow your logic, which is that anybody who has ever used any of these memes is a neo nazi by proxy then anybody who took part in mainstream Internet culture over the past 20 years is a neo nazi… which is obviously ridiculous.

Keep in mind, you’re right the groyper meme did originate from neo nazis but so did many other famous memes. I mean the latest famous variation of wojak, the chud, originated from some Marxist imageboard. Marxists are just as vile as neo nazis, does that mean anybody who used the chudjak meme is a Marxist? No, that’s stupid. The meme was started by Marxists, but it was used by a lot of other people, including those making fun of Marxists.

The point that I’m trying to make here is that memes serve as templates. Templates without content don’t mean anything, they’re just a structured blank document. Just like how symbols have different meanings in different contexts, so do these memes. If OP posted this same meme saying something like “Putin is still a great leader” then OP would be a fascist… but he’s not. His meme is about Biden.

Like seriously, do you honestly believe that OP is some secret neo nazi because he used a cartoon frog meme to make a pro Biden post? Even worse, do you seriously think that I’m also a secret neo nazi by proxy for pointing out that symbols and templates mean different things in different contexts? This is where you start crossing the line from a valid critic into a paranoid schizo or McCarthyist virute signaler.

I’m not irritated, I’m just confused because your original comment didn’t make sense.

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I was making a general statement

Biden, or the left at large, isn’t immune to criticism just because Trump, or the right at large, is worse. Biden, the DNC, and the American left are pretty bad right now and deserve criticism even if Trump, the GOP, and the right are much worse. Saying both sides are bad doesn’t necessarily mean they’re equally bad.

Hillary is pretty divisive herself, and there was bound to be another Trump like candidate in the next election who would makes waves. Trump is a symptom, not the source

Okay, let’s suppose this plan succeeds… Then what? Are we going to replace the court? Who said the new judges are going to be more or less the same regardless of political affiliation? And what exactly is there to stop the opposition from doing the same thing?

There seems to be more systematic issues involved.

It’s funny because the losers who used to worship him a few years ago are now the same exact losers who obsessively hate him while, ironically, calling other people losers.

In terms of Russian interests? Pretty much

Marxism is a full fledged ideology. That’s just objective fact. You can’t erase what it is or what happened because of it.

Your feelings on the matter don’t invalidate my point

Those parties aren’t gaining ground because of Russia. Russia is definitely an influence, but they’re not the reason these parties are winning. They’re gaining ground because the establishment parties are failing people and these parties are the only alternative they have. We’ve seen such parties win in Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, etc but nothing really changed foreign policy wise.

Someone who isn’t historically illiterate? I’m not surprised either. Most people who aren’t tend to view Marxism for the evil that it was.