Ok. Let the body cam sort that out then.

https://apnews.com/article/utica-police-shooting-nyah-mway-myanmar-835e5c29eed93dc109108f668323d9f4

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/crime/2024/06/30/utica-shooting-police-bodycam-footage-nyah-mway/74262307007/

Neither suggests anyuthing in the footage showing he pointed a gun at officers.

But second link does say this:

Patterson and Husnay ran after Nyah, with Patterson taking the teen down after a short chase as officers can be heard screaming “He’s got a gun.”

Husnay had his gun drawn and appeared to shoot Nyah when he was down on the ground, according to his released bodycam footage.

Please find me where either of these articles corroborates that the bodycam shows he pointed a gun at police.

Here’s key bits of the video:

https://youtu.be/VpzfphvQIOA

Looks to me like he was trying to drop the gun, it’s pointed at himself if anything. Still is as provided by the newsteam in the youtube link, and if you listen to the audio, they are clearly accepting the police story and not disagreeing - so this is the best they could do to make it look good for them.

This isn’t even when they shot him!! They shot him ON THE GROUND.

edited - looks even worse for them here https://www.facebook.com/CBSEveningNews/videos/1188314849017274/

My very first statement - I’ll believe it when I see a video. Police don’t get the benefit of the doubt anymore.

I will vote for her so hard given the chance. Unfortunately, I’m still just one vote. I want to agree with you, but I’m not sure I can. I’d sure love to see her give it a real run, with a DNC that supporter her and didn’t drag her to the center or actively undercut her primary chances.

And he was pointing it at cops.

Allegedly.

My grandfather used to drizzle his used motor oil along his fence to help control weeds.

I found that sentence as difficult to type as you might hope.

If Harris. Comes the pick, that’s the only wild card I see. She will alienate a lot of folks because she isn’t as progressive as media is making her out to be.

I don’t think I can comfortably vote for someone who made their career as a prosecutor, she may as well have been a cop. I didn’t like her as VP either for the same reasons.

Didn’t she make a name for herself as a DA aggressively procecuting for MJ? People who statistically looked a lot more like her than me? So we get slow roll fascism instead of a sprint?

(heads to wikipedia)

She prosecuted more than her predecessor, and her replacement issued blanket pardons back to 1975. So that was an option she had but chose not to take, as I see it.

Under Harris, the D.A.'s office obtained more than 1,900 convictions for marijuana offenses, including persons simultaneously convicted of marijuana offenses and more serious crimes.[76] The rate at which Harris’s office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76] Harris’s successor as D.A., George Gascón, expunged all San Francisco marijuana offenses going back to 1975.[76]

I’m not a single-issue voter on MJ, but I think it’s a decent indicator of where her head was at.

Sure, if they put Harris up will I vote for her? Yeah. Then in 2028 they’ll tell me I have to vote for facist-lite again because Democracy is stil under threat even though Trump’s heart explodes from all those cheeseburgers in 2027, so she’ll get a second term. No real chance of real progressive policies or whitehouse-driven police reform until 2032.

I’ve never seen Biden look as bad as he did in the first debate, so I’d like to see how he is in the second debate before I kick him to the curb. Then maybe we get someone who isn’t so cozy with police in for 2028 instead of Kamala’s second term.

It’s a common way people try to justify their actions. As if police are a force of nature. You wouldn’t stand in the path of a tornado, why would you expect police to act on more than the most superficial analysis of the situation and with less than the most violence they can justify.

https://youtu.be/sNY74nQ-ACk

Thanks it will be stuck in my head for a day or two now. 😁

Because if cops wait around, and figure things out first, you have Uvalde all over again. People were pissed, as they should be, that police showed up, and DIDN’T shoot a kid.

I don’t claim this is intentional on your part, but I believe you’ve created a false dichotomy. There is a spectrum of outcomes between what happened here and what happened in Uvalde.

(and again, I’ll believe he was pointing it at them when I can see a video proving he did so)

Do we as a society really need reminding don’t point weapons at police? Don’t do it folks.

Do we need a reminder that kids aren’t mini-adults, and they do stupid things sometimes? In any case, I’ll believe he pointed it at them when I see a video of it.

Hey I’ll give them some credit with that headline.

Not “13-year-old killed in police shooting” or “a 13-year old died during a police interaction” etc. Nope, they fully went with “Police in New York shoot and kill 13-year-old.” Thank you, PBS.

Also -

The shooting happened Friday night after officers in Utica stopped two youths at around 10:18 p.m.

One of them fled and pointed what appeared to be a handgun at the officers, according to a statement by the Utica Police Department.

I’ll be interested to see when that footage is released and what it contains.

Fuck if it doesn’t seem true.

I laughed until tears came down my cheeks when I got to that part the first time. Which might be a little over the top, but that exact transition you describe really got me. The visual transition really drives it home, too.

Sorry… say no to the specific thing Jesus did in the Bible? And this was by a school of divinity?

An evangelical leader is warning that conservative Christians are now rejecting the teachings of Jesus as “liberal talking points.”

You know it.

Maybe not but it’s a super fun video. :) Probably political to people who believe in lizard people. 😀

Wow you are a true fan, I’m more of a filthy casual. :D

Some of those I’ve heard, some I haven’t but I’ll check them out. Thanks!

Yeah, I somehow didn’t really get just how many kinds of genius he was until recent years. I always liked his stuff, but I somehow never paid enough attention to get that smidge of countercultury gen-x (He’s a boomer, but we’ll give him an honorary position) “I see your bullshit” attitude that sneaks in from time to time.

Edit: This is another great one. It takes a bit of a left turn or two… https://youtu.be/urglg3WimHA

It’s crazy how they’re completely ignoring any substance of the debate and solely focusing on appearances. It’s almost like that’d favour a populist candidate or something.

I thought Biden seemed a little worse than you did, but I mostly agree with you. There’s no possible thing that could happen now that would make me cast any vote that might assist Trump getting in regardless. BUT, it’s absolutely legitimate that folks should have an opinion about not only the health of the President today, but his likely health at the end of his next term. I think they really amplified it in the post-debate coverage beyond what was reasonable or wise, but I do think it’s a reasonable concern for someone to have.

I think the problem was partly Biden, but that was made much worse by the fact that I don’t think I’ve ever seen Trump sound more coherent.

Yes, he still lied, and yes he’s still Trump. But it wasn’t like the 2020 debate, and it wasn’t like his recent ridiculous rantings about Hannibal Lector, etc… This was the closest thing to a functioning adult I’ve seen Trump look since he entered politics, and meanwhile about the worst I’ve personally seen Biden come off.

I disagree with the meme in OP because Trump voters must be gleeful today. How could they not be? They believe everything he said, so they just saw their guy being the best he can be and Biden being nearly the worst he can be.

However, I also think this is recoverable if Trump returns to form in the next debate, especially if Biden has more spring in his step. Maybe he had a cold? (seriously I wondered if he was under the weather)