Always remember:
Never trust a Republican. Ever.
I assume anything from a cop or Republican is a lie until shown otherwise. So far it’s turned out to be a pretty reliable philosophy.
Correlation of “if accused by a Republican, investigate that Republican for the exact thing they accuse others of”.
It’s absurd how often they project their own crimes.
They think that everyone is a garbage human like they are.
Since I see “marginalized groups should buy guns” comments constantly on Lemmy, please remember that gun sales bankroll the $18 million per year in “donations” that the gun lobby makes to the very worst Republicans.
They’ll also use that gun as an excuse to kill you. That’s why they’re pushing the idea of “LGBT extremists” in the first place. It gives far-right fuckstains a chance to claim “I saw a pride pin and a holstered gun and thought they were going to do a mass shooting so I executed them on the street before they could”.
it’s real interesting that you said “you” not “us” at the start of your second paragraph. really good preface to the rest of your argument.
what the fuck industry lobby doesn’t bankroll republicans?
if they’re gonna kill us anyways, I see no reason not to go down fighting.
it’s real interesting that you said “you” not “us” at the start of your second paragraph
Something that doesn’t seem to worry you when a poster is simping for the gun lobby.
But this isn’t some ‘gotcha’ moment. I’m not trans and won’t use a sock puppet to pretend otherwise.
what the fuck industry lobby doesn’t bankroll republicans?
Exclusively Republicans and nearly exclusively far-right ones? Very few. There’s no need to be rhetorical about it since it’s easy to look up.
if they’re gonna kill us anyways, I see no reason not to go down fighting
You’ll likely be dead before you even know the fight started because guns favor the aggressor.
If you do manage to shoot your way out of it, you’ll be labelled as one of the “LGBT extremists” they’re desperately trying to create and hunted for the rest of your life, endangering the entire trans community in the proccess.
Fox News isn’t telling their far-right viewers how dangerous you are to protect you.
They’re already doing that. Might as well be armed if they’re saying we’re armed.
Sure, do exactly what the far-right want you to do. No doubt the groups who spend all day theorycrafting ways to kill undesirables and manipulate public opinion have accidentally let this one trick slip out.
Kindly fuck off, please
Not while you endanger my friends and family with your bullshit pro-gun rhetoric. You’ve had 50 years to prove it and fucked if I’m giving you more.
I disagree with this actually. Minorities should be arming up imo, and if you’re worried about putting money in Republican pockets, buy privately instead.
If that worked, America would be the safest country in the world for minorities (and by a huge margin). Instead, every few months a far-right extremist uses their legally purchased gun to kill as many minorities as they can.
I’d like to see sources that prove that it’s currently happening every few months.
According to the ADL, there were 40 acts of terrorism attributed to the far-right in 2020-2022. So “every few months” was actually an understatement, but I doubt that’s what you objected to.
You can follow the link to learn more about who America’s gun laws actually arm. Anyone who supports those laws staying unchanged (or made more permissive) inherently supports selling guns to those people since identifying and disarming extremists is a form of gun control.
So if you actually read the link you sent me, you’d see that:
- Firearms were used in 40% of the terrorist acts
- Governments were most often the target of the terrorist acts
So again, I’d like to see a source with proof that firearms are being used in acts of terrorism to kill specifically minorities at a rate of every few months.
And FWIW, I’m not trying to defend or downplay any terrorist acts by anyone, Republican or not and with a firearm or not. I just don’t think it’s an argument to be used against arming yourself.
Firearms were used in 40% of the terrorist acts
Making them the most commonly used weapon by a significant margin, with arson coming in at only 25%
So again, I’d like to see a source with proof that firearms are being used in acts of terrorism to kill specifically minorities at a rate of every few months
Are you sure that’s what you want? Because it looks to me like you’re pretty eager to hold casual speech to rigorous statistical standards (which is textbook sealioning).
You also fixated on it rather than address “if arming minorities worked, why are they no safer in America than Canada, Australia or the UK?”, a concept you clearly haven’t applied demanded the same standard of proof for.
I just don’t think it’s an argument to be used against arming yourself.
You’d think guns failing to deliver on their promise to save minorities for 50 years would be all the argument you’d need but if you’d prefer to get in an arms race with the far-right, you do you.
I got a text yesterday from some conservative bullshit saying that I needed to vote for certain judges Trump named if I wanted to preserve voting integrity.
I needed a good laugh.
What about Lincoln?
There was a political switch. Republicans were the more liberal party when Lincoln was around.
Your average Republican will argue against this verifiable fact until they pass out.
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Your average Republican will argue against this verifiable fact until they pass out.
Lol what are you trying to accomplish with this comment?
Conservative media be like:
Thank you - it always do be like that with the fear-mongerers.
Liberal media repeating IDF claims be like
They don’t need evidence when they have their “gut instincts”.
“mY oWn ReSeArch!”
This is amazing but also so super unfair to Ralph who’s never once shown the severe brain rot required to be part of the modern Republican party .
He is Idaho, however.
Rumble or some Q-anon forum on screen would have also been acceptable lol
And like their gut, their instincts are full of shit.
The most depressing thing about this is that I expect no one who actually believed there was such a trend will read this article, nor believe it if shown to them. I’m glad it was published, but for the audience likely to read it I don’t think there is going to be a surprise here.
But it is something cis people can send family who thinks this
That’s a really good point!
Yeah, a lot of these people live in a conservative bubble, but loved ones can help break them out
It turns out the “gay agenda” was just a Trapper Keeper all along, they like to be organized.
I label all my attempts to organize my schedule “the gay agenda”. Nobody has the time to convert the straights, we’d have to reschedule our D&D campaign night.
Right wing nutcase: “lone wolf, acting alone, yadda yadda, don’t lump us in with them…”
LGBTQ nutcase: “they speak for all of them…”
I think I need someone to explain this to me …
I think it’s just our brains want to change “violent” into “violence” because there’s so many attacks against that demographic.
What the headline is saying is that LGBT isn’t committing terroristic attacks like Republicans claim.
Thank you, I was very confused about that until I had actually read the article. My question was actually regarding the sheer insanity of the original claim - as in, who believes that?
Conservatives do it with everything.
As soon as a big story breaks, their media sphere makes outrageous claims as “just asking questions” then report that their viewers are repeating it.
By the time facts come out, they’ve dropped that story and are doing the same for a new one.
It all circles back to Watergate when Nixon’s administration realized the only reason he had to resign, was Republican voters were listening to the same news as everyone else.
A memo from the accidentally made it into Nixon’s presidential library, and from that a paper trail was found that resulted in Faux News.
That’s why it’s infuriating Biden wants to return to those days. Republicans weren’t different back then, they just hadn’t figured out how to get away with it.
Now that they have, there’s no going back.
Simple projection.
A lot of anti trans rhetoric is actually basically that. “Involved in” is an amazing way to frame victims of crime as possibly perpetrators. Trans women are disproportionately involved in sexual violence, sure it’s as the victims but you don’t have to say that if you want to spin it.
There was a mass shooting recently and hatemongers have been screeching that the shooter was trans in order to drum up anti-trans and anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric among conservatives. This article is basically setting the record straight.
But … wouldn’t that include acknowledging that mass shootings are an issue? Regardless: what the actual fuck?
Yes but not the correct issue.
They acknowledge it like they acknowledge climate change: exactly as much as they feel in the moment they can use it to get what they already wanted
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Yeah cause it doesn’t exist. Stop trying to get attention, you’re not fooling anyone.
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Why would someone who is marginalized on a daily basis for just being want to increase that attention and hatred even more? I’ve known several transgendered folks who just want to get by and be left alone, not stir up more violence and hatred.
Took me a second to realize the title was talking about violent extremism BY LGBTQ+ and trans folks, not against them.
Relevant Orwell quote about Hitler:
It is a pathetic, dog-like face, the face of a man suffering under intolerable wrongs. In a rather more manly way it reproduces the expression of innumerable pictures of Christ crucified, and there is little doubt that that is how Hitler sees himself. The initial, personal cause of his grievance against the universe can only be guessed at; but at any rate the grievance is here. He is the martyr, the victim, Prometheus chained to the rock, the self-sacrificing hero who fights single-handed against impossible odds. If he were killing a mouse he would know how to make it seem like a dragon.
Sigh, this is why we’re gonna be shipped off. I hate that the dumbest failsons can just lie like this
Shocking that a thing that never existed isn’t there!
Of course. Violent far right liars will make up any bullshit they can use to be horrid little cretins. They NEED people to shit on and harm. If trans people disappeared, they would move on to another group. If all groups they say they hated vanished, they would eat one another. Hatred is the only thing they have been absolutely concrete on.
I think I need someone to explain this to me …
There was a mass shooting recently, and conservatives pretended it was committed by a trans person. It wasn’t.
