• zephyreks@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      More likely to be bought by the International Democrat Union than by Russians.

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          9 months ago

          They’re more in support of right wing policy than they are of Ukraine, though.

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            That’s true, but they have just invited (former Ukrainian pro-EU president) Poroshenko to their honorary advisory board. I do not think this is pro-Russia stand.

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              The IDU doesn’t care about Ukraine except insofar as it is a pawn to push right-wing ideology abroad.

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      They can read the polls and can see that a plurality of voters seem to be against more aid.

      Edit: -72 is breddy good, I’m quite impressed at how fact resistant you guys are. It really IS the reddit experience.

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        a plurality

        Yeah, about ten guys who were bought and sold by Russia and a couple thousand other folks that fell for their con. By no means a majority and also by no means a reasonable stance.

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            9 months ago

            These polls are as idiotic as the Brexit Referendum was.

            People have no fucking clue what’s going on and they answer by their “gut feeling”. So it’s all down to the way the question is formed.

            And it’s not a “yes” or “no” type of situation either.

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              So your argument is what exactly? That the poll is flawed… so there isn’t a majority or plurality? You realize that both for and against could have been answering by their “gut feeling”… a 50/50 split kind of proves the point that it’s not just a few thousand like was claimed.

              Of course if you have a better source showing that Americans are happy with spending more money in Ukraine that’s of higher quality I’m all ears.

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                9 months ago

                My argument is that linking a shitty poll that paint the issue in black or white does nothing to help to paint the picture of public opinion on the russia’s attack on Ukraine and how people feel about it.

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                  9 months ago

                  Can you show how the poll is misrepresenting it as a black/white issue?

                  Do you have ANY better statistical resource?

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                    Can you show how the poll is misrepresenting it as a black/white issue? I can, but you don’t seem to be genuinely interested, so I’m not going to waste my time.

                    Do you have ANY better statistical resource? No, but sometimes no resource is of more quality than a misleading poll.

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          9 months ago

          “someone said something I don’t understand, they must be pro-Russian”

          Flawless logic, kiddo.

          is CNN also a Russian shill?

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              9 months ago

              Stating an obvious reason that democratically elected officials might have an opinion is pro-Russian.

              I guess that elections are also undemocratic?

              You’re a loon and I thank you for helping me grow my Blocklist.