• voracitude@lemmy.world
    20·
    2 months ago

    I have no horse in the Linux distro race, I’m just downvoting this inferior version of the meme format because fuck that guy.

      • taaz@biglemmowski.winEnglish
        7·
        2 months ago

        lemmy.one has disabled downvotes, it’s up to admins of each instance if they allow viewing and making downvotes.

      • voracitude@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        At least in the Voyager app. I have heard it’s not the same thing as elsewhere but I haven’t taken the time to understand how or why it’s different.

              • voracitude@lemmy.world
                1·
                2 months ago

                That sounds reasonable to me! Would explain why the mobile app has it and the web app doesn’t; I don’t know if a Lemmy instance has a way to advertise the functions it supports to third party apps.

                • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  For me, the Boost Lemmy app let me downvote even though my instance has it disabled… It just quietly failed and when I go back the downvote isn’t there.

                  The Jerboa and Voyager apps, on the other hand, don’t: Voyager let’s you try but correctly shows an error, while Jerboa flat out doesn’t offer it since I can’t anyway

                • Zangoose@lemmy.one
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  I think blocking downvotes is an option built into Lemmy servers that can be communicated through the API. I know there are a decent amount of instances that don’t federate downvotes because of toxicity concerns.

  • Peasley@lemmy.world
    6·
    2 months ago

    Somebody has never used opensuse. Zypper is an amazing package manager, one of the best on any distro.

    It can handle flatpacks, native packages, and packages from the opensuse build system, keeping everything updated and organized.

    Pacman is very basic by comparison, and a lot slower too in my experience.

      • Peasley@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        I guess I’m smart enough to install opensuse, but dumb enough that I somehow got slow pacman.

        I kid you not, on my hardware zypper is the fastest between ubuntu apt, fedora dnf, and arch pacman. dnf was the second-fastest on my hardware, with apt and pacman being pretty sluggish

        I’ve also used portage which was even slower, but probably not a fair comparison considering how much more complex it is.

          • sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            Trust me my friend, a person can make a c program that’s much, much slower than one in python. That’s a meaningless point.

            Sure, c allows for more control and thus the possibility for a quicker program but that’s just it, a possibility.

            Zipper, though written in c++, can only download one thing at a time. This is why it’s so slow

          • Zangoose@lemmy.one
            2·
            2 months ago

            In the grand scheme of things the difference between C, C++, and Python isn’t meaningful when operating over a network (edit: for a single-user system). It’s very likely that the difference for thread OP is just caused by weaker connections to specific repos.

            We’re talking about a package manager, not a game, network server, etc. On a basic level the package manager only needs to download files from a network and install them (OS syscalls for reading/writing files, these are exposed C functions or assembly routines), or delegate to a specific package’s build setup (which will also likely be written in a compiled language)

  • lemmyreader@lemmy.mlEnglish
    6·
    2 months ago

    Bold :-) openSUSE is based on zypper and rpm. Arch Linux uses its own package system.

    p.s. Please replace that Change my mind guy with a Calvin and Hobbes one.

  • Raccoonn@lemmy.ml
    3·
    2 months ago

    OpenSUSE was actually released long before Arch even existed. I’m an Arch user, btw, but I consider both operating systems to be excellent choices. Everyone has their own preferences. Let people enjoy what they like and embrace their individuality. We don’t all have to be alike…

    • lemmyreader@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      OpenSUSE was actually released long before Arch even existed.

      You’re basically right but just some historic facts added :

      Judd Vinet started the Arch Linux project in March 2002. OpenSUSE : Its development was opened up to the community in 2005, which marked the creation of openSUSE. Before that it was called SUSE Linux, first released in 1994.

  • Presi300@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    2 months ago

    Coming from someone who’s clearly never used Arch… It is anything but stable, that’s kinda the whole point.

  • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
    1·
    2 months ago

    OpenSUSE exists as a testbed for SLE, I don’t think there’s anything confusing about that. It’s also much easier to get to a sensible setup for new users. If it weren’t for the AUR and the Arch Wiki, I would probably still be using it.

  • cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world
    1·
    2 months ago

    Arch based distros are pretty stable in my experience. I actually had much more problems on distros like Debian and PopOs than Arch.

  • owatnext@lemmy.world
    21·
    2 months ago

    Sorry. I didn’t even read it. I just down voted when I saw that terrible human being.

  • Björn Tantau@swg-empire.de
    21·
    2 months ago

    Serious question: What makes Arch’s package manager so “great”? I always just found it confusing to use. The flags don’t make any sense to me. It feels like you have to add a varying number of s or y to get it to do what you want. I never found it to be any faster or slower than any of the others (apart from portage of course) out there. And apart from the flags it doesn’t seem to give me any more or less trouble than the others.