Gonna need to be a full on poly commune at this rate if prices keep going up.
We’re getting closer and closer to wrapping back around and just having community. Just remove the sex aspect and boom you got a community going.
you ever wonder if communities typically did just have a bunch of sex but revisionism happened
For most of the existence of human species (according to the scholarly consensus of anthropologists) we existed in bands of adults who would intermingle freely. Adolescent men would raid nearby tribes and kidnap their young women, which is the means by which genes were exchanged between tribes.
All the monogamy and licensing happened after agriculture and the great leap forward once tribes became big enough that infectious diseases were no longer contained through pure isolation. We see the misogynistic trends rise in late Hellenic periods and then Christianity cranked it up to eleven, so now we imagine even our migrant hunter-gatherer ancestors paired off.
As a note, during the middle ages, it was super important among aristocracy to assure ladies-in-waiting were virginal before they were wed, and then used purely as heir machines, but the serf class routinely banged like bunnies in springtime. And while frowned upon by the more piety-minded clergy, it was generally ignored because a) Child mortality was something awful and every kid that ever reached majority was to be celebrated, and b) The labor shortage was extreme everywhere. There was always way too much stuff to be done, and so every pair of hands was welcome, even when they were attacked to an idiot, a malformed hunchback, a ne’er-do-well or the bastard progeny of a mixed coupling.
Curiously, as we see in the birth of Mordred, pre-Christian European traditions included suspending adultery limitations during holidays, which happened at least once a season, sometimes twice. So even in societies where monogamy was the norm, there was a defined space for getting a bit on the side. (Useful when your partner was infertile.)
So yeah. Right in one.
This is a great write up.
Do you have any books/sources to recommend on this subject?
I’ve always been interested in klans persisting in the Middle East but dying out in Europe due (I’m told) to the Catholic church.
Any interesting sources would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you, for being the expert when we needed one.
You’re welcome to what I know, though I’m just someone who’s read more than a little pop-science. I’m not accredited or anything.
Adolescent men would raid nearby tribes and kidnap their young women, which is the means by which genes were exchanged between tribes.
We see the misogynistic trends rise in late Hellenic periods
hmmm
Source for the whole kidnapping aspect?
even when they were attacked to an idiot, a malformed hunchback, a ne’er-do-well or the bastard progeny of a mixed coupling.
The serfs probably become more fit than the nobility over time because they had far more evolutionary pressure and diversity. The bloodline rules limited the nobility more than anything. One capable person doesn’t change much genetically in the grand scheme of things. Nepotism and inequality are anti-meritocratic.
The loop-de-loop
Royal families are just so sad and pathetic. Ultimately, everyone is worse off, even them.
Maybe the treasure was the community we formed as we had all the sex.
This is like half the point of polyamory
This is incredibly common in SF. Many people live in co-ops and it’s created an entire subculture where they coordinate large parties and events both within the co-op and with other co-ops. It’s gone beyond necessity and become preferred by some because they enjoy living with lots of others. Not my thing, but many friends live in co-ops and love it.
Re-establishment of clans and tribes will soon become an economic necessity for the poor. Unions would of course be better, but I’m not holding my breath.
Counterpoint: Clan night raids with fire & steal on the local oligarchs & tyrants.
All three in my triad are ADHD no one else cares enough to try to understand us but we have eachother.
Who up to join the polycule
Or just a co-op house so we don’t feel obligated to copulate with each other, which we could do any ways in a co-op but only if we actually want to.
I think there’s this common misconception that poly means everyone is bangging everyone & my experience is the the intimate connections tend to be radial & not closed loops. A sorts of ‘tribe’ structure.
IMO that’s the way it should be, rather then this fractured, boxed up society we have today.
It’s worse than that. When you look at the status quo through the lens of capitalism, we’re all very strongly aligned with maximum extraction of personal wealth. Everyone is at peak personal inefficiency by everyone having/owning one of everything, as we constantly bleed income to other parties. In other words: we’d all be richer if we shared more stuff and were less territorial about things that don’t matter.
TL;DR: everything we should be doing is stuff we learned in the sandbox as kids.
Multiple wives might get you greater revenue but they have higher expenses.
Men, if you want more net savings, don’t get multiple wives. Just get one husband. Problem solved. The gays figured out how to game the wage gap long ago. Lesbians still have trouble though.
Yo straight up all my gay and lesbian couple friends are rich AF though haha. One lesbian couple owns like 50 acres and a fuckin ranch mansion in Texas that’s easily worth $5Mn + their livestock. My buddy Joey owns like 5 houses in 3 countries and lives in the Caribbean. He def figured it out.
Interestingly though, on average, gay and lesbian married couples both make more money than heterosexual married couples.
Probably because a lot, if not the majority of LGBT couples are DINKs. Makes it a lot easier to focus on career/education when kids aren’t around.
Ive never heard the term “DINK” What is that?
DINK - Dual income no kids
I need two women to cuddle in bed with. Purely for economic reasons of course because I can’t afford heating 😎
I remember reading The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Where criminals were sent there to work. Because of this, there were never enough women. Polyamory was the norm. Except the writer showed one man, married to multiple women. No co-husbands.
I only got halfway the book due to the writer’s ceaseless complaing about women. So I am not sure if there are co-husbands at all.
